10-01-2004, 12:47 AM
Peace to u Shaunee,
Thanku for your warm feelings, and now that u joined us here u r not a totla stranger u r a part of our community now, so we care about u and we hope that u will c the light one day, but I am sorry to tell u that I differ with u here, that not all relegions are the same, yes they are all from Allah but the Torah and Bible have been changed, while the Quran did not , c how many bibles there are, but there is only one Quran Shaunee that never changed a word since 1425 years ago. Allah sends prophets to show people the right way to worship Him, which they should abide to, we should not worship Him according to what we like or dislike, we are only slaves to Allah, His own creation, so He knows what is best for us and what is not. Being raised a christian and u happy with it okay I cannot blame u for that, it is your decision, but what u said as :
Quote:Islam, Christianity..... that's a label on the outside so other's know who you are, so that they can put you on their respect list or disrespect list. What I have in my heart is between me and God. Not the Pope, not an Emam, not a Rabbi.
Yes it is between u and God, u must know Shaunee that in Islam, we do not follow emams, like christians follow pope or jews a rabbi, no nor do emams take any money from us in order to grant us God's forgivness, when we pray we pray between us and Allah, we ask no1 but Him, we depend on no1 but Him, we seek forgivness from Him. we pray solely to Him Shaunee, it seems u still do not know what is true Islam, I hope u will learn more here, and u will then know what I mean.
Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem:
59. Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allâh is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was.
60. (This is) the truth from your Lord, so be not of those who doubt.
61. Then whoever disputes with you concerning him ['Iesa (Jesus)] after (all this) knowledge that has come to you, [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus)] being a slave of Allâh, and having no share in Divinity) say: (O Muhammad ) "Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves - then we pray and invoke (sincerely) the Curse of Allâh upon those who lie."
62. Verily! This is the true narrative [about the story of 'Iesa (Jesus)], and, Lâ ilâha ill-Allâh (none has the right to be worshipped but Allâh, the One and the Only True God, Who has neither a wife nor a son). And indeed, Allâh is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
63. And if they turn away (and do not accept these true proofs and evidences), then surely, Allâh is All-Aware of those who do mischief.
64. Say (O Muhammad ): "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians): Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allâh, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allâh. Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims."
65. O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Why do you dispute about Ibrâhim (Abraham), while the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) were not revealed till after him? Have you then no sense?
66. Verily, you are those who have disputed about that of which you have knowledge. Why do you then dispute concerning that which you have no knowledge? It is Allâh Who knows, and you know not.
67. Ibrâhim (Abraham) was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was a true Muslim Hanifa (Islâmic Monotheism - to worship none but Allâh Alone) and he was not of Al-Mushrikûn (See V.2:105). 3, Surat Al-Imran
Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem:
84. Say (O Muhammad ): "We believe in Allâh and in what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down to Ibrâhim (Abraham), Ismâ'il (Ishmael), Ishâque (Isaac), Ya'qûb (Jacob) and Al-Asbât [the twelve sons of Ya'qûb (Jacob)] and what was given to Mûsa (Moses), 'Iesa (Jesus) and the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between one another among them and to Him (Allâh) we have submitted (in Islâm)."
85. And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.
86. How shall Allâh guide a people who disbelieved after their belief and after they bore witness that the Messenger (Muhammad ) is true and after clear proofs had come unto them? And Allâh guides not the people who are Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers). 2, Al-Imran
Read these verses carefully, these are the words of Allah, and not the words of any Emam or Scholar. Whoever put in your mind that we follow our Emams has given u a very wrong information. The Emams are only Sholars who have studied the Quran and have knowledge in the book more than we do, and still they do not claim to know everything nor do they claim to have the keys to the heavens. Now do u c the difference.
Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem:
7. It is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad ) the Book (this Qur'ân). In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book [and those are the Verses of Al-Ahkâm (commandments, etc.), Al-Farâ'id (obligatory duties) and Al-Hudud (legal laws for the punishment of thieves, adulterers, etc.)]; and others not entirely clear. So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation (from the truth) they follow that which is not entirely clear thereof, seeking Al-Fitnah (polytheism and trials, etc.), and seeking for its hidden meanings, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allâh. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in it; the whole of it (clear and unclear Verses) are from our Lord." And none receive admonition except men of understanding. (Tafsir At-Tabarî).
8. (They say): "Our Lord! Let not our hearts deviate (from the truth) after You have guided us, and grant us mercy from You. Truly, You are the Bestower."
9. Our Lord! Verily, it is You Who will gather mankind together on the Day about which there is no doubt. Verily, Allâh never breaks His Promise". 2, Al-Imran
Now do u c the difference, our Emams are only teachers who teach us our relegion, but never do we go to them to ask forgivness, or to ask their blessings, we seek blessings only from Allah and no1 but Him.
I still think that by Will of Allah, u will be enlightened, after u understand and know what is the difference between Islam and other relegions.
Read the link below it will help u to understand why Islam, and Allah knows best:
http://www.islamsms.com/bb/index.php?showtopic=1842
The above is an informative thread, we will keep on adding to it by will of Allah, and I will pray for u to c the light , surely I will.
Peace