09-23-2004, 10:11 PM
Quote:Where are your proofs for that, we are talking here about true Islam, we are not talking about Taliban or any others who are wearing the cloack of Islam then they are beheading people to show how savage Islam is , that does not represent Islam. Here in Kuwait many youngesters came back from Iraq, they were brainwashed by some extremists group to go and fight in Iraq, they did go they were craving for Jihad, when they went there, they saw that these groups that are leading whatever is going on in Iraq now from the beheading or killing or car blowings, are not true muslims, they said first they do not have beards, they do not pray, and they do not preach true Islam, and they asked them to blow themselves up, so in return the youngesters refused because they were truly relegiuos and said " I will not commit suicide to kill myself and innocent people along with me, this is not Islam, and this is not what Allah ordered us to do, why don't u go blow yourself up". Then they left and on their way back they were caught at the Iraqi Syrian borders then handled to the Kuwaiti authorities. They are set free now after knowing their intentions, and since they did not join the terrorists in iraq who are not muslims, but there are a few that are still held, and some they are still searching for. So before u attack Islam, which we keep on repeating here and every other place in the world, diffrenciate between true Islam and between terrorists that are wearing the cloack of Islam, theifs are kidnapping children in Iraq to ask for ransomes from their parents in the name of Islam.
Now let us turn to your country US, since it was founded how many masacres were comitted so it would build itself upon others ruins.
1- Red Indians, a whole nation was annihilated. ( was that in the name of democracy also )
2- Japan, atomic bomb, who was destroyed the governement or the population ?
3- Vietnam, what did US really gain ?
4- Iran, Iraq, Kuwait conflict - I am speechless -
5- Israel who is trying to annihilate the palestinian population with the blessings of the USA wonderful democracy.
Now this is a quality posting. Good feedback with information to validate something. Thanks for the info about the Kuwaiti youngsters. I've often wondered where Kuwait would be today if the US hadn't taken action. We shouldn't have gotten involved with Kuwait a lot of people say. We should have left Saddam alone and let those people fight their fight. I often wonder if that would have been a better course of action.
With that said, let me state that when I ask that question "if this is being a Muslim" in regards to the beheading. I"m directing that question to someone who was defending the beheadings and terrorism not all Muslims. You and a lot of your friends here seem unwilling to accept that. I'm not attacking all of Islam. I'm attacking those who try to say these beheadings ARE part of Islam.
1- Red Indians, a whole nation was annihilated. ( was that in the name of democracy also ) Very true. I can't defend what was done to the Indians. We had slavery at one time to. Americans recognize this. We also know we can't change it. We weren't alive when it happened and we can't bring them back. We had a civil war over slavery with brother killing brother. Americans were willing to die to keep the Union together and abolish slavery. We don't have slavery any longer.
2- Japan, atomic bomb, who was destroyed the governement or the population ?
Do you have any idea what you're saying on this topic? Everytime the US is attacked by another country all some of you Muslims can do is act like the US isn't supposed to react! Japan, without warning, on the morning of December 7th 1941 attacked the United States. They declared war on us. We beat them all the way back to Japan and they would not surrender. We said if you don't surrender we will drop this bomb. They wouldn't surrender. So instead of getting thousands of Americans who didn't start the war killed by invading the island we dropped 2 atomic bombs.
3- Vietnam, what did US really gain ?
Wow. You're really picking at topics you don't even have any idea about aren't you? Do you know why the Vietnam war ended? Do you know who John Kennedy was? What is your point about Vietnam? You probably think we invaded Vietnam originally don't you"?
4- Iran, Iraq, Kuwait conflict - I am speechless -
Kuwait conflict...tell me what should have happend. Iraq. We never should have invaded. Iran...we haven't invaded. You've made no point so I guess you don't have one on these topics.
5- Israel who is trying to annihilate the palestinian population with the blessings of the USA wonderful democracy.
The US and Israel are to close. I agree with that. A lot of Americans agree with that. You don't even have any idea how many Americans feel that way. If America didn't help Israel I'm sure the Muslim countries would get together again like they tried in 1967 and try to wipe the Jews out. Kind of the way those Americans did to the Indians.
Israel is wrong with some of their policies that I see. The only argument I ever get on here though is "that was our land. We want it back." Guess what. You ain't getting all back with out a war. I don't want one, but I'm smart enough to know those Jews ain't just gonna get up and go.