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Joshua it is not us who say that and I think u read enough Quran to know what I am talking about, however, why not place the Ayahs here again


It has nothing to do with Allah's unlimted Capability. It has to do with how Allah Described Himslef to us in Quran, so if we say other wise we would be transgressing against Allah.


I think u posted this argument on another thread too, and received the same reply which I am about to put here but no prob.


"Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "He is Allah, (the) One.


Allah-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks).


<b>He begets not, nor was He begotten;
</b>


And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him" (Quran 112:1-4)


And:"'And exalted be the Majesty of our Lord, He has taken neither a wife, nor a son (or offspring or children)." (Quran 72:3)


Look at the Anger of Allah in the coming Ayah every time I recite this Ayah I tremble Joshua I do, although Alhamdulelah I dont say what is contained therein.


"<b>Surely, in disbelief are they who say that Allah is the Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary
</b>). Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "Who then has the least power against Allah, <b>if He were to destroy the Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), his mother, and all those who are on the earth together
</b>?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them. He creates what He wills. And Allah is Able to do all things." (Quran 5:17)


Then look at the blame:


"And (remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All Knower of all that is hidden and unseen.


And (remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All Knower of all that is hidden and unseen." (Quran 5:117-118)


As u can see, we are not the ones saying that Allah, however, when we discuss with a non Muslim we dont quote Quran for to start with they are not aware the Quran is from Allah, but I think u passed this stage as u admitted.....