09-06-2004, 06:53 AM
Assalamua'alaykum....
i'd like to start our REAL discussion here with several differences from Qur'an vs Bible, regarding God's attributes:
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Does God Forget ?
Why do you forget us forever, why do you so long forsake us?
[Lam. 5:20]
How long O Lord ? will you forget me forever.
[Psalm 13:1]
(The angels say:) "We descend not but by command of thy Lord: to Him belongeth what is before us and what is behind us, and what is between: and thy Lord never doth forget "
[Quran 19:64]
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Does God Sleep ?
Awake, why do you sleep, O Lord?
[Psalm. 4:23]
Then the Lord awaked as one out of sleep, and like a mighty man that shouts by reason of wine.
[Psalm. 4:23]
Allah! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).
[Quran 2:255]
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Can anyone in this life see God face to face ?!
Jacob wrestled God who said to him, "Let me go; for the day is breaking" But Jacob said, "I will not let you go unless you bless me. And he said to him,"What is your name? And he said "Jacob" Then the Lord said, "Your name shall be no more called Jacob but Israel, for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed. Then Jacob asked him, "Tell me, I pray your name. But he said, "Why is it that you ask my name?
And there he blessed him. So Jacob called the name of the place "Pen'el" saying: For I have seen God face to face."
[Gen. 32:22]
No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things.
[Quran 6:103]
When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: "O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee." Allah said: "By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me." When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe."
[Quran 7:143]
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Does God Need to Refresh ?!
For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
[Exo. 31:17]
We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in Six Days, nor did any sense of weariness touch Us.
[Quran 50:38]
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Does God Knows everything happening ?
And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where are thou?
[Gen. 3:8,9]
With Him are the keys of the unseen, the treasures that none knoweth but He. He knoweth whatever there is on the earth and in the sea. Not a leaf doth fall but with His knowledge: there is not a grain in the darkness (or depths) of the earth, nor anything fresh or dry (green or withered), but is (inscribed) in a record clear (to those who can read).
[Quran 6:59]
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Does God regret ?
And the Lord was sorry that he made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. [he said]: "For I am sorry that I have made them."
[Gen 6:6,7]
The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all.
[Quran 6:115]
But no change wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing): no turning off wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing).
[Quran 35:39]
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Does God order people to commit sins ?
When the Lord first spoke to Hose'a he said to him, "GO TAKE TO YOURSELF A WIFE OF HARLOTRY and have children of harlotry, for the land has committed great harlotry by forsaking the Lord."
[Hos. 1:2]
God said to the children of Israel, "Every woman shall BORROW of her neighbour jewels of silver and gold, and remaint, and you shall put them upon your sons, and upon your daughters and you shall spoil the Egyptians.
[Exo. 3:22]
So they borrowed of the Egyptians jewels and remaint: And the Lord gave the people favour in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they lent them such things as they required. And they spoiled the Egyptians.
[Exo.12:35]
When they do aught that is shameful, they say: "We found our fathers doing so"; and "Allah commanded us thus": Say: "Nay, Allah never commands what is shameful: do ye say of Allah what ye know not?"
[Quran 7:28]
Say: "Nay, Allah never commands what is indecent: Do you say of Allah what you know not? "
[Quran 7:28]
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Is it Justice to accuse the children of their fathers' sins ?
I am the Lord, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generations.
[Deut. 5:7]
Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers.
[isiah 14:21]
And the Lord said, "Go through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have you pity. Slay utterly old and young both maids and little children, and woman.
[Ezek. 9:5]
Every soul draws the meed of its acts on none but itself: no bearer of burdens can bear th burden of another.
[Quran 6:164]
The Prophet Mohamad said to his army before going to a fight "Depart in the name of Allah, and by his help. And kill not any old man nor young boy nor child, nor woman, But be good doers for Allah loves those who do good."
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Wallahu 'alam......
i hope this one would be a healthy discussion, not where emotions and hatred thrown onto each other......Insha Allah.....