08-15-2004, 07:32 PM
La hawla wala qowata ila billah
u know what Dan I started changing my approach totally specially after this last post of lul
lul u know I feel terribly sorry for u and whoever is in your position. Insh aAllah we will do our best to bring the truth. Whether or not you will see it is only up to u. But we have to fulfill our duty in all cases.
What Dan is talking about is the numerous Ayahs put forth clearly stating Haj rituals that u called paganism. Clearly indicating the sanctity of Kab`a that u refuse to accept.
Now u also deny that Allah, and I dont know why u call Him The GOd. He is Allah
Created us to worship Him
U came here telling us Quran is between u and us.
What if the Quran tells u why u were created.
Now listen LUL may Allah Puts the light in your heart:
"And I (Allah) created not the jinns and humans <b>except they should worship Me </b>(Alone)." (Quran 51:56)
"<b>And they were commanded not, but that they should worship Allah, and worship none but Him Alone </b>(abstaining from ascribing partners to Him), and perform AsSalat (iqamatasSalat) and give Zakat: and that is the right religion." (Quran 98:5)
Lul u really need to know what Islam is, may be Allah Is Giving u a chance take it. Just stay and read. If u refer back to our posts, specially the one on:
http://www.islamsms.com/bb/index.php?showtopic=1842
Read slowly without bias, dont feel threatened we dont mean to intimidate u, we really want to help.
I sincerely advice u to seriously re consider your status and hasten to the true path before it is too late. I know u must be feeling insecure now, wanting to just prove u r not wrong. But the issue is worth a try. It is your final destination that is in jeopardy.
Now more on Salat which u totally deny, although I posted many Ayahs mentioning the movements of bowing and prostration, but why not more, I am investing my time Alhamdulelah. See I really praise Allah for being a native Arabic speaker, I have not credit in this, if I dont use what Al Baset (One Who Expand) taught me, He could simply take it away or in other words Al Qabed (One Who Contracts) can contract it.
So listen to this:
"So woe unto those performers of Salat (prayers) * <b>Who delay their Salat </b>(prayer) from their stated fixed times" (Quran 107 : 4-5)
When Allah Talks about delaying an act then their this something to be performed on specific times.
Again on Mecca and Kaba:
"Verily<b>, the first House (of worship) appointed for mankind was that at Bakkah </b>(Makkah), full of blessing, and a guidance for Al-'Alameen (the mankind and jinns).
* <b>In it are manifest signs (for example), the Maqaam (place) of Ibraaheem </b>(Abraham); whosoever enters it, he attains security. <b>And Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah) to the House (Ka'bah) is a duty that mankind owes to Allah, those who can afford the expenses (for one's conveyance, provision and residence); and whoever disbelieves [i</b>.e. denies Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah), then he is a disbeliever of Allah], then Allah stands not in need of any of the 'Alameen (mankind and jinns)." (Quran 3:96 -97)
"Verily! As-Safa and Al-Marwah (two mountains in Makkah) are of the Symbols
of Allah. <b>So it is not a sin on him who perform Hajj or 'Umrah (pilgrimage) of the House (the Ka'bah at Makkah) to perform the going (Tawaf) between them (As-Safa and Al-Marwah). And whoever does good </b>voluntarily, then verily, Allah is All-Recogniser, All-Knower.
" (Quran 2:158) with all dur respect to the translator, but the word in red is not supposed to be symbols but rather rituals. In arabic is it sha`aer which is rituals.
What do u understand of all this, u still dont get it?? Just as Dan told u re read and look at all the Ayahs or else u r just arguing for the sake of argument, or u r threatended by the truth. It is never too late. Just ask for Allah's guidance.