Islamic Hijaab

[Lightuponlight]

Peace be upon you,

U know the problem with lightuponlight that he is already claiming to be a muslim, and I do not know what sect of Islam he belongs to, the more we explain to him, the more he manipulates with the words of Allah and then he claims that we are manipulating. And if u can c that he is not using the word Al-Salam 'Alaykom when he is starting his speach. He is using the word Peace, we use that for Ahl-Alkitab and Kuffar, so what kind of a muslim is he?

First of all, I am a female, and second of all, salam simly means peace.


Either you accept it, or you don't.

Lightuponlight stop being sarcastic, and arrogant as well, first of all what u quoted as words of Allah, is not the authentic words of Allah, because that is a translation of the translation of Quran. and u r changing that translation to your own nafs. Since u do not beleive in Sunnah( and that is the translation of the Quran by prophet Muhammad, (PBUH) and he is a Prophet, then are u better than him claiming to know what Allah Subhanahu Wa ta'ala meant by the words in Quran, now that will be another issue that we will discuss on another post. So now let us go back to the Hijab or Khimar issue.

You and the others here, keep saying: SUNNAH OF MUHAMMAD, now, whenever I ask you or the others to GO to al quran and produce the verse which speaks of the SUNNAH OF MUHAMMAD, you either evade it, or resort to diatribes and ad hominem arguments.


Now, please don't duck it this time. I'd like to see the verse that says: SUNNAH OF MUHAMMAD

No a KHIMAR is a KHIMAR, it is not a curtain, it is not a dress, it is not a table cloth or
a blanket, stop changing meanings of arabic words.


The word Khimar, when Allah Subhanahu wa T'ala adresses women by saying:


"Wa leyadrebna bekhomorehena 'ala jeyoubihina" it means :


KHOMOREHENA= is plural for KHIMAR, and the (hena) is to stress that he is talking


to women, which means in arabic what a woman covers her head with, and then


throwes it over her bossom, from head to bossom. What u r trying to manipulate


here that khumur could mean what ever could be covered is not true, because the


ayah is clear, Allah Subhanahu Wa Talla here is addressing the muslim women, and


not adressing table or wall or box or anything else(WOMEN), so when it comes to


women a KHIMAR is what she covers her head with, and u r not to change the


menaing of an arabic word according to your own whims..


If u look in an arabic /arabic dictionary it says :


إختمرت المرأة, أي لبست الخمار, والخمار ما تغطي المرأة به رأسها.


Ikhtamarat almar'a = the woman wore her khimar, and a khimar is what a woman should cover her head with. So it means Hijab is an obligation from Allah.

Stop trying to manipulate the words. The word khimar simply means cover, as khamra means an intoxicant which covers the state of mind. Khimar can also mean head-covering, that's right, did I ever say that it doesn't mean head-covering? But khimar can also mean COVER, and you have to put the meaning which best fits the context of the verse, not that which suits your own whims and fansies.


The God is telling women to DRAW THEIR KHOMORINA OVER THEIR <i><b>BOSOMS</b></i> Therefore, the best translation is COVER. Had The God said to draw it over your head, then it would be accurate to translate it as headcovering


The God never said ANYTHING about covering the HEAD, so to ASSOCIATE khimar with HEAD is WRONG.


The Arabic word for head isn't even in there.


The God never said to cover the head.


If you says that He did, then point it out, verbatim, that He said so. Otherwise, don't misrepresent Him and say things about Him which you have no knowledge of.

Well it seems u r not giving yourself the chance to learn, we are giving u proofs and u r
not accepting them, now may I ask u 1 question. do u know arabic, if u dont then I can say yes maybe u r mislead and we are then willing to help u, but if u do, well it seems u need to learn the arabic language all over again.

I am learning fushaa. And it seems that, you need to stop trying to manipulate other meaning for God's words, as you people love to do it over here, hikma = sunnah instead of wisdom, who knows what's going to be next.


Peace.