08-04-2004, 11:20 PM
Quote:"Whoever obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys Allah, and whoever turns back, so We have not sent you as a keeper over them. "
and if the answer is yes then please tell me exactly what methods will you use to "obey the prophet" and what will be your guide lines?....do you even know what is prophet commands so you obey him?
<b>Main Entry</b>: obey
1 <i><b>: to follow the commands or guidance of</b></i>
2 : to conform to or comply with <obey an order> <falling objects obey the laws of physics>
intransitive senses : to behave obediently
Since the messenger is not here with us, the only way to obey him is by obeying his MESSAGE, THE QURAN, THE WORD OF GOD. Muhammad UTTERED the word of God, therefore, we must obey him by obeying the word.
WHERE does it saying obeying the messenger = obeying bukhari and enterprise? DONT dodge this question.
WHERE does it say that, obeying the messenger = obeying what <i><b>OTHERS THOUGHT THE MESSENGER SAID?</b></i>
"And authenticating what is present with me of the Torah, and to make lawful some of that which was forbidden to you; and I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so be aware of God <i><b>AND OBEY me</b></i>." 3-50
Jesus also said to obey him. His people knew that it didn't mean following second and third hand narrations about him.
Aaron had already, before this said to them: "O my people! ye are being tested in this: for verily your Lord is (Allah) Most Gracious; so <i><b>FOLLOW ME AND OBEY MY COMMAND</b></i>." 20-90
Aaron said to follow him and obey him. His people also knew he didn't mean to follow ANY alleged sayings that were to be attributed to him after his death.
When their brother Noah said to them: "Will you not be righteous?""I am to you a trustworthy messenger.""So be aware of God <i><b>AND OBEY ME." </b></i>26:106-108
Same here. Obeying the Messenger, once again, has NOTHING to do with ANY ALLEGED sayings, period.