08-04-2004, 07:11 PM
Quote:1- the verse say (1)The Book AND (2) the wisdom...2 seperate sources
They are different aspects, but together from the same source. The ayats I gave you about wisdom being an attribute of the Quran refute your argument.
Quote:2- explain to me...how God order us not to disobey the prophet while we don't have this prophet commands? does it make sense??
I AM obeying his commands by obeying the BOOK that HE brought:
<i><b>Say</b></i>: "Come let me recite to you what your Lord Has forbidden for you: that you should not set-up anything with Him; and be kind to your parents; and do not kill your unborn children for fear of poverty, We provide for you and for them; and do not come near lewdness, what is plain of it or subtle; and do not kill the soul which God Has forbidden, except by justice. That is what He enjoined you that you may comprehend. "And do not come near the money of the orphan, except for what is best, until he reached his maturity; and give honestly full measure and weight equitably. We do not burden a soul except by what it can bear, and if you speak then be just even if against a relative; and regarding the pledges made to God, you shall observe them. This He Has enjoined you that you may remember." 6:151-152
By staying away from what God prohibited THROUGH HIS MESSENGER, we are obeying the messenger. HE uttered the COMMANDS that were given to him by His Lord for US to obey.
God NEVER told us to obey what BUKHARI AND OTHERS said ABOUT Muhammad. He told us to obey the MESSENGER, and the Quran is the WORD the messenger uttered directly. Thus, we must obey that.
Quote:- and you didn't answer my question about Prayers and the 17 Rakkat per day.
Solaa, from my understanding, does not mean an up and down, 5x a day ritual prayer, but commitments/obligations/responsibilities.
Shall I seek for a judge other than GOD, when HE it is WHO has sent down to you the <i><b>BOOK FULLY DETAILED? </b></i>And those to whom WE gave the Book know that it has been sent down from thy Lord with truth; so be thou not of those who doubt. 6-114
A.L.R., a <i><b>Scripture</b></i> whose verses were made firm, then <i><b>DETAILED </b></i>from One who is Wise, Expert. 11-1
A <i><b>Scripture </b></i>whose verses are <i><b>DETAILED, </b></i>a Quran in Arabic, for a people who know. 41-3
If solaa really means ritual prayer, and if it was so significant, then, I think that, God would have given us the details of it in His DETAILED book.