The Forty Sacred Hadith

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Salam

There is no such thing as sunna of muhammad in the Reading.

Who are u to say that and what is your proof ? are u a scholar or what

7. What Allâh gave as booty (Fai') to His Messenger (Muhammad ) from the people of the townships, - it is for Allâh, His Messenger (Muhammad ), the kindred (of Messenger Muhammad ), the orphans, Al­Masâkin (the poor), and the wayfarer, in order that it may not become a fortune used by the rich among you. And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad ) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it) , and fear Allâh. Verily, Allâh is Severe in punishment. 59, Surat Al-Hashr.
This verse is about war booty. Nice try.

I know that it is about war booty, i put this aya here to emphasis on this "<b>And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad ) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it)</b>


and then the division of booty, how was it decided, or the quantities, it was all explained by the prophets sayings, and sayings= ahadeeth and ahadeth=sunnah= sunnah is what he utters from his mouth, and each word he utters is by revelation from Allah, and the sahabas wrote this done, and by efforts of many scientists to preserve it reached us, and one of these scholars is Bukhary.

NOWHERE does it say that, obeying the messenger = obeying bukhari, or obeying the messenger = obeying/following ahadith BESIDES the quran.

And why should Allah mention Bukhary in the Quran, he did not mention the name of any of the sahaba in the QURAN, who are closer to the prophet and who preserved the QurAn and Ahadeeth of the Prophet, except Zayd,and that was for a special subject. So this is a non rational quest from u .

No one is claiming that the messenger speaks out of his own desire when it comes to the Reading.
Good job at manipulating other words to mean sunna. Al-Hikma = the wisdom.


PLease point out an ayat where The God specifically says AL HIKMA = SUNNAH OF MUHAMMAD.


If you cannot do this, then you effectively make a liar out of God.

I am not manipulating, if u know Arabic which I doubt u know, then u will know that the word Hikma means, especially when it is associated with prophets.


What does the word Hikma means= حكمه


Hikma in Arabic means :


1) SAR Hakeeman= become wise.


2) Al-Kalam Al-mowafeq Al-Hag = the Sayings that endorses with the truth.


3) Sawab Al-Amr Wa Sadaduh = the rightness of a matter and relevance.


4) Al'adl= Justice.


5) Al-'Ilm = science and knowledge.


6) Al-Hulm = patience and forebearance.


7) Al_phalsapha= Philosophy= calm resignation: restraint, resignation, or calmness and rationality in a person’s behavior or response to events, u can read more here.


http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/philosophy.html


So this is the 7 different meanings of the arabic word hikma, these are 7 characteristics, and they all apply to the Prophet, may Peace Be Upon Him, he is wise, he utters nothing but truth, when he looks in a matter or judge it, it is by rightousness and relevance, he is just, he has the science and the knowledge that Allah Subhanau Wa T'ala taught him, he is the most patient person ever born on this earth, and he is the best philosopher born.


Now what Does Sunna means in Arabic language ?


Sunna is :


1) Al-Nahj= a course or following to pursue.


2) Al-tareeg= The way one follows.


3) Al-Seera = conduct, behaviour. Line of conduct and behaviour or way of life.


So now we come to the conclusion that the Sunna, is the NAHJ, the course we should


follow of a beleif. We are Muslims, we beleive in ONE GOD, Allah Subhanahu Wata'ala, and Prophet Mohamad is his Messenger, that utters no falsity, he is wise truthful, just, patient, knowledgable, and most of all his manners was the Quran itself. So this was his Nahj his way, his tareeqa. he had a line of conduct and behaviour which we should follow, and that is the Sunna, how we pray, how we wash, how we eat, how we pay zakat, how we rule, what we should do when go to jihad. I think i said before that in the Quran it was not mentioned how many times we should pray, or the rulings of many marriage matters in sunna not mentioned in Quran.


Now about u refuting the ahadeeth of Bukhary, who are u to refute them, Bukhary was a very relegious and trusted scholar, he once travelled a long way to a man he heard that he has one hadeeth of the prophet(PBUH), but when he saw that that man lied to his animal by falsly aiming that he has food in his hand, he left him and told him if u lie to an animal, how then can I beleive u.

<b>WRONG. Al-Quran is perfect, has been completed by the Almighty Himself. It's words do not need to be substituted by YOU.</b>


But nice try at manipulating another meaning for hikma.

The Quran is perfect, and its words are not subsituted by any ordinary human being, it is subsituted by the Prophet of the Alameen, who has been taught by the Angel Gabriel. And when Allah says in his Holy Quran"


For Allah has sent down (anzala) to you the Book and the Wisdom and taught you what you knew not…” (4:113)



Book And the wisdom= Al-Kitab <b>Wa Al-Hikma</b> it means in arabic 2 different things <b>Wa</b> means and, he did not say the kitab is the hikma. <b>Wa</b> is adat Jame' in Arabic, which means that it is an adding particle or letter, which means this and that, which means 2 different things. Al- Kitab WA Al-Hikma, e.g The table and chair= Almae'da WA alkursy. 2 different things. So stop saying that we are manpulating words, it is u who is manipulating and not us.


Now if u r following a special beleif or creed, that is against the Quran and Sunna, this is not the place to preach it.


And if u r one of the followers of the submitters , then I hope u will repent, or leave this forum .


http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Par...submitters.html


If u r of his followers, then leave in peace or repent. And stop playing with verses of Quran according to your Nafs and hawa.


Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem :


14. And whosoever disobeys Allâh and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and transgresses His limits, He will cast him into the Fire, to abide therein; and he shall have a disgraceful torment.
4, Al-Nisa'


36. It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allâh and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allâh and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error.
33, Al-Ahzab


22. Say (O Muhammad ): "None can protect me from Allâh's punishment (if I were to disobey Him), nor should I find refuge except in Him.



23. "(Mine is) but conveyance (of the truth) from Allâh and His Messages (of Islâmic Monotheism), and whosoever disobeys Allâh and His Messenger, then verily, for him is the Fire of Hell, he shall dwell therein forever ." 72, Surat Al-Jinn.


So if u disobey any word or order utterred by the Prophet Mohammad, u r a trangresser, and the Sunnah is the Prophets sayings and orders that he does not speak of his own Nafs or Hawa, it is a revelation from Allah Almighty. Allah is always mentioning His Name with the Prophet, to obey Him and the Prophet. So stop trying to refute the Sunna, because u will not succeed.


Hasbuna Allah Wa ni'ma Al-Wakeel, Howa Nima' Al-Mawla, Wa ni'ma Al-Naseer, Allahuma La tohasibna bima fa'ala alsufaha' mina, inaka Anta Al-Azeez Al-Hakeem.


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