08-03-2004, 08:22 PM
Peace be upon you,
Quote:If u know arabic, then first off dont say someone made a lier of Allah (wal iyadhu billah). Simple when Allah states that the Messenger is going to teach them two things, the book and wisdom. That makes the items two separate things, r u following. Then the book yes shall contain hikma of course, but since Allah mentioned it separately, it is a way of emphasing it due to its importance. Therefore, the Messenger (sallla Allah a`alyhee wa sallam) shall teach two things the book and hikma (wisdom). Now what is the source of the hikmah? it must be nothing else but the hadeeth.. If Allah mentioned in Quran sunat aldheen khalow. Foot steps of those who came before u. Therefore the hikmah shall be titled as sunnah as well.
<b>Main Entry: </b>ex·trap·o·late
1 : to infer (values of a variable in an unobserved interval) from values within an already observed interval
2 a : to project, extend, or expand (known data or experience) into an area not known or experienced so as to arrive at a usually <i><b>conjectural </b></i>knowledge of the unknown area
HUH?! How in the WORLD did you arrive at that conclusion!!?! You are <i><b>extrapolating </b></i>here.
“…For Allah has sent down (anzala) to you the Book and the <i><b>Wisdom </b></i>and taught you what you knew not…” (4:113)
Al-Hikma is an attribute/characteristic of the Qur’an. The Qur’an is not just a book of commandments/policies/rules/laws. It also holds the hikma/wisdom behind those rules and regulations.
There has already come to them recitals wherein there is (enough) to check; delivery of Wisdom (Hikmatun Balighatun) - but the preaching of warners profits them not.” (54:4-5)
This ayat talks about the delivery of Hikma, which is from THE BOOK OF GOD. Hence, this verse confirms that Hikma is from the Book and not from any outside sources.
Then in this verse, The God makes it clear that The Qur’an is the Hikma:
“<i><b>These are of the Wisdom </b></i>(al-Hikmati), which your Lord has revealed to you. And do not make with God another god, or you will be cast into Hell, blameworthy and regretting. (17:39).
“Alif Laam Ra. These are the Verses of the <i><b>Book of Wisdom </b></i>(Kitaab al-Hakeem)” (10:1)
“Alif Lam Mim. These are the Verses of the <i><b>Book of Wisdom</b></i>” (31:1-2)
“Ta Sin. By <i><b>the Qur’an full of Wisdom</b></i>” (36:1-2)
“We have made it a <i><b>Qur’an </b></i>in Arabic, so that you may use your Aqal. And verily it is in the Mother of <i><b>The Book</b></i>, in Our Presence, High, <i><b>full of Wisdom</b></i>” (43:3-4)
These above Ayaat make it evident that Wisdom is an attribute of the Qur’an. As a result when the Qur’an is revealed to the Prophet, its Hikma is also revealed to him by default.
Ha Mim. And the Book of Clarity (Kitaab al-Mubeen). We sent it down during a blessed night: for We wish to warn. In that is made distinct <i><b>EVERY</b></i> affair of <i><b>WISDOM</b></i>” (44:1-4)
Here, The God binds the descending of the Book with <i><b>ALL </b></i>wisdom. It is an attribute of the Qur’an that is to be recited and is <i><b>NOT </b></i>a separate revelation from the Qur’an.
<i><b>He grants wisdom to whom He chooses</b></i>, and whoever is granted wisdom, has been given much good. Only those with understanding will remember. 2-269
Quote:the hikmah shall be titled as sunnah as well
WRONG. Al-Quran is perfect, has been completed by the Almighty Himself. It's words do not need to be substituted by YOU.
But nice try at manipulating another meaning for hikma.
Now, please post the verse where The God says that wisdom = sunnah
Or else, you ascribe/associate something with The God without being able to prove it, via HIS Scripture.
7:33. Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to Allah, for which He hath given no authority; and <i><b>saying things about Allah </b></i>of which you have <i><b>no knowledge</b></i>.
21:24. Or have they taken for worship (other) gods besides him? Say, "<i><b>Bring your proof</b></i>: this is the Message of those with me and the Message of those before me." But most of them know not the Truth, and so turn away.
Quote:I am not sure u r a brother or sister. But if this is what u believe really, then u have a serious problem that entails immediate repentance and I think, but u better check with a scholar taking the shahada again.
The shahada which the sunnis/shias utter today is unquranic. Can you please point where God has told us to utter such a thing in order to become a Muslim?
Looking forward to your response.