Family 'proud' of suicide bomber

[Abu Dujanah]

<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b>as salam alykom  </b>

although for several reasons i was relcutant to respond to u Abu, but, didnt it occur to u that Allah simly pointed back مكر makr (cunning) of whoever did the 11/9 to their necks. I think Allah a`alem of course, that whoever did it meant to undermine Islam, where as Allah turned table making people investigate more about it. My point was simply if we applied the hadeeth u quoted, jihad shall not be applicable on the case of 11/9 or am I understanding the hadeeth wrongly.  

Abu, jihad is something so sacred, we all wish we could attain the level of jihad most importantly jihad an nafs as to how far we control our ego and anger, how far we do things only for Allah, not to attain personal credit. And certainly we all wish to be part of Afganistan, Chenchnya, Plaestine or other Muslim hot areas to simply attain shahadah. But just we must do it right.

I rather no comment on the above especially when you said, "whoever did it meant to undermine Islam" etc.

[Muslimah]

fair enough but I doubt if u r getting on my points. again apply the hadeeth u quoted pls that women and children to be only killed by mistake or during night time when no light enough is there

just re think abuot it before posting again

I just quoted a hadeeth u presented ok

[Abu Dujanah]

Sister my sencere advice to you is to read what the scholars have said regarding the hadeeth i quoted and this topic, as you know we must ask the people of knowledge if you dont know.

I suggest reading Sheikh ul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, etc works, they are very good.

[Muslimah]

Jazakum Allah khairan for your advice, but u still ignore the hadeeth u quoted. Also I was not the one who made judgements. just exactly as u said u r aware of both views and u endorse the one which is for it. I see the other view correct. So I did not do anything more than u did but just different from u.

well I m out of this topic following the sunnah to avoid argument even if Iam correct.

[phatmonky]

wow, this has erupted

Thanks to all for contributing, despite my disagreement with some of it.

Abu Dujanah, do you believe "an eye for an eye", is the best course of action?

[Muslimah]

Nothing has erupted Phat, Abu and me are Muslims which makes us brother and sister. Even if we differ no hatered or enmity erupts never. we remain sister and brother in Islam. U know what Phat, I also respect Abu a lot for his sincere (Insh aAllah wallah u a`alem) effort he is dedicating for Islam. Even if I differ with him, he remains one who is struggling.

[alimam19]

(بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم)


accidentally civilians people get hurt or wounded or die in a war


but the invader usually must hold every innocent blood .


if there is no US army in iraq there will be no resistance struggle .


US army kill in vietnam 3 million people most of them innocent womens


and childrens but vietnamese did not stop fighting against invaders .


the US army now do need a new listen that they will never forget .


fight against savage invaders like USA army and israel army is holy struggle


even for non muslim of arabic people because they have to defense


for them selves .


do you think brother peaceful that korean vietnamese are bad


because they fought against US army


do you think that the french resistance were bad because they fought


against natzi army.


and at the same time against traitors like general pettan and his goverment.


dear brother peaceful :


the us army is looking for people just like you they will love you and may be


you will get noble prise for peace as Mr Sadat of Egypt


so try to play this tune with us army not with iraqian mujahideen