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al-Quaida beheads American contractor on camera in the name of allah
al-Quaida beheads American contractor on camera in the name of allah
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al-Quaida beheads American contractor on camera in the name of allah
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05-11-2004, 11:16 PM
Quote:<i>Originally posted by phatmonky </i><b>This won't be good image for MuslimsNo it wont but we need to understand before we fall into the trap that alot of people has fallen into... think of a few things... 1. How are we for sure that these people are muslims... It is not that hard for a non muslim who knows a little bit of arabic to go on tv and say a few arabic words behead someone and say that it is in the name of allah... why is it that no one thought of this.... Everyone knows islam doesnt condone this... yet still they would try to use these points against islam.... but if we were to take this approach... an approach that says that because people do wrong their religion is wrong then what about christianity.... wasn't HITLER a christian.... arent those child molester preists christian..... what about the hindus arent the tamil tigers hindus what about all this.... so just because some people do something wrong doesnt mean that we all are wrong.... besides nothing can affect the muslims as long as we stand firm in the belief of laa illaha illa allah... no one can touch us as long as we hold firm to that NOTHING.... NOT CHRISTIANS NOT HINDUS NOT ATHEISTS NOT AGNOSTICS NOT EVEN THE ACTIONS OF THOSE WHO CLAIM TO BE MUSLIM... as muslims we have gotten through much tougher times than this... i know we can get through a little PR problem
05-12-2004, 01:56 AM
Quote:<i>Originally posted by naseeha </i><b>No it wont but we need to understand before we fall into the trap that alot of people has fallen into...</b>A little PR problem, that we apologised for and are taking steps to correct, is the supposed catalyst for this innocent man's killing. I hope you remember what a little PR problem can turn in to. I think that a lot of people will assume muslims support this kind of action because there isn't a clear defined condemnation of it from...Muslims
05-12-2004, 02:44 AM
Quote:<i>Originally posted by phatmonky </i><b> think that a lot of people will assume muslims support this kind of action because there isn't a clear defined condemnation of it from...Muslims </b>sad but true man... there has been condemnation but on a small scale... However... these things have worked for islam in that alot of non muslims now want to find out the truth about it... but this is by no way an excuse... but phat remember... dont judge the religion by the ppl ![[Image: wink.gif]](http://www.islamsms.com/upload/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Quote:<i>Originally posted by phatmonky </i><b> A little PR problem, that we apologised for and are taking steps to correct, is the supposed catalyst for this innocent man's killing.</b>what pr problem are you referring to here... and how was it the catalyst for this man's killing...
05-12-2004, 03:02 AM
lemme go a little off thread here... and say this... your obstinate aversion to the truth and your persistence therein will be your unmaking... you approach everything without any common sense <b>wake up and smell the coffee</b> this is your <i>"GENIUS"</i> reply... This does in no way reflect what i said... nor is it a reply.... all the purpose that it serves is to make useless comments... subhanallah... you know in the past i have had one LITTLE clash with phatmonkey but we handled it very well and we both learned... you on the other hand are obviously not willing to learn anything and it seems that your purpose here is to cause confusion... may i suggest that you change your attitude towards this forum may allah guide you doe.. for all our sakes
05-12-2004, 04:22 AM
Quote:<i>Originally posted by naseeha </i><b>lemme go a little off thread here... and say this...</b>Welcome to the ignore list.
05-12-2004, 06:35 AM
May I ask a simple question then just quote an Ayah Why do u all think that only Islam is under serious attack? The Messenger is always under serious attack? Did u see sites specially built against hinduism, Buddism, Judasim or other? did u see anti Budda or Hindu bishops articles? No there isnt. Well why? is the main question u need to answer? Another important point before I leave off, why do u think there is heavens and hell? why do u think even there are ranks in heavens? why everybody expects Muslims to be angles? Only angels do not commit sins. Allah Says:" "and kill not anyone whom Allâh has forbidden, except for a just cause (according to Islâmic law). " (Quran 6:151) kill not anyone without specifying a Muslim or non Muslim, this is what Quran say. The rule is there, u break it, u receive your punishment. Period
05-12-2004, 12:26 PM
Quote:<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b>May I ask a simple question then just quote an Ayah</b>I think that this act is going to be a huge setback for Islam, without some real condemnation from real muslims. All religion is under attack from many sources, however Islam has messengers, on it's behalf (whether right or wrong), that cut off civilian heads on TV and scream about Allah. This act will be talked about for a long time. I understand this - but look at the member population on this site. The pure brutality that this act was done in is enough to override many peoples' previous judgement of muslims. Had this guy been killed while walking down the street, that would be just a terrorist.But because he was beheaded, while still alive, on television while the executioners claimed it was for Islam, puts a serious mark on things.
05-12-2004, 12:45 PM
Quote:<i>Originally posted by phatmonky </i><b></b>I am not sure I understand the link here Phat. any way Alhamdulelah, dont worry, Islam will continue to be the true religion and Insh aAllah we Muslims will continue trying to improve ourselves. |
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