Is Pakistan next to be attack

[waheedrafiq]

Just yesterday Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan made a apologise to the western governments

My main question is :

· Why can the Muslim world unite as one

· And do you think Pakistan is next on the list to be attack

What will we do if Mecca gets attack fine we can stand and watch Iraqis die , we can watch Afghans die , we can even watch our mosque burn.

Are we truly Muslim or just by words.

:mad:

[Ali]

We can't unite because we look for answers from the west, we've not honored the divine guidance as we should have, and not implemented Allah's law.

We have nationalism amongst us, today a muslim identifies himself as Turkish, or Indian first then a muslim.

Pakistan is a US colony technically.

-- Ali

[Ali]

There was a time, when Pakistanis used to introduce themselves as Afghan in United States simply to be adored with comments like, “Oh, you are a mujahid? Wow! Strong people!!”

Today, most Americans and other Westerners avoid to have a second look at faces with traditional Muslim beard or heads with a headscarf.

Keeping the role of mainstream media in this transition in mind, one can assess that it would not take long to turn these small gesture of avoiding glances at Muslim faces to the decision by many shops and restaurants not to serve the Muslim population.

Placards saying "Jews not admitted" and "Jews enter this place at their own risk" began to appear all over Germany in less than five years time. In some parts of the country Jews were banned from public parks, swimming-pools and public transport. History is on the way to repeating itself _— this time for Muslims.

continue reading at http://www.icssa.org/21s_century_Jews.htm

[MichelleSeeking]

"Today, most Americans and other Westerners avoid to have a second look at faces with traditional Muslim beard or heads with a headscarf."

Perhaps people "avoid a second look at faces with traditional Muslim beards or head scarves" because ... staring at someone is considered rude in my culture! A quick glance is permissable but taking a second look at someone is rude. If you see an American looking at your beard or headscarf and then quickly looking away more then likely they are trying to be polite by not staring. A beard and headscarf is something unique to some Americans and they will look with curiosity but not stare impolitely. We are incredibly sensative about staring. We have many social taboos against such a thing.

If anyone thinks that *most* American eyes are diverted from a Muslim beard or scarf out of prejudice then you are wrong. There are ignorant racist people in every country and America certainly has her share. Please do not spead such broad generalizations about Americans because all it will do is breed hatred. I can tell you from experience that when we Americans heard about the hate crimes against Muslims in our country after 9/11 we were FURIOUS. Many good people, myself included, were ready to defend any Muslim we saw being tormented. Did you notice how the attacks and hate crimes were stopped rather quickly? We would not tolerate such nonsense.

Please, do not think that "most Americans" accept such behavior or harbor such hatred. It would be better to say "a few Americans" or "some Americans" are prejudiced against a person wearing a traditional Muslim beard or head scarf. They would be the exeption, not the rule.

"Placards saying "Jews not admitted" and "Jews enter this place at their own risk" began to appear all over Germany in less than five years time. In some parts of the country Jews were banned from public parks, swimming-pools and public transport. History is on the way to repeating itself _— this time for Muslims."

No it is not. We will not allow such a thing. The minute a placard appears in a window saying, "Muslims not allowed" the offending establisment will certainly hear about it from the rest of us Americans!!!!!! Do you know why? Because a lot of us Americans are Muslims! And the ones that are not Muslim enjoy the religious freedoms granted to us on American soil. If one Religion is being attacked then all Religions are under attack and we won't tolerate that! I cannot speak for Europe but I deffinately know America will not tolerate such idiocy. If this kind of stuff is taking place right now it certainly will not spread.

If anyone feels the need to educate others about hate crimes then that is acceptable. Education keeps ignorance from spreading. Posting individual instances of hate crimes is an excellent way to keep people informed and active against such things. But please do not assume that "most Americans" are against Muslims. That entire article (I visited the link) is very insulting. It assumes so much about us Americans.

"From now on, Islam is both an identity and a crime. It makes a person’s citizenship and his rights totally irrelevant. Eighty percent of the Jews in Germany held German citizenship. The so-called racial profiling in the US is nothing but a refined term for pure racism. The US Supreme Court has legalised detention of thousands of Muslims on mere suspicion."

What about the non-Muslim Americans that are accused of terrorism and detained, questioned, and profiled? What about all of the other Muslims that come and go freely and unhindered? This article seems like a good case of "The glass is half-empty" to me. Why whip up unnessesary fear by comparing apples to oranges? But to compare us with Nazis?????????

Yes, there are injustices in the system. No system is perfect. It's hard not to be suspicious when terrorists are broadcasting all over the world, "It's every Muslim's job to kill Americans.". Can you blame American authorities for being careful? Wouldn't you do the same if terrorists were saying, "It's every American's job to kill Muslims." That'd be kinda scary don't you think? If I was in charge of security I'd be checking out every American that came into my country!

And those ID cards with x-amount of pages of information: everyone would have one, not just the Muslims. So how can this be "we are out to get the Muslims"? This is not the same as pinning the Star of David onto every Jew's coat.

I'd take that whole article with a big grain of salt.

[waheedrafiq]

First of all god bless America . I strongly agree with the point made above , however , its up to American people to defend each other and to unite as brother and sister you guy’s will need community events like Hala curry , street party , face paints for the kids , its these kind of events that will let America show the rest of the world it means peace.

No body should have nuclear bombs we don’t need it , and all of us human should be looking to help the poorer

[Abu Dujanah]

The world's going mad.

May Allah destroy the Kuffar and those who support them, ameen

[phatmonky]

Michelle, I've never been so proud of your posts before!

[phatmonky]

<i>Originally posted by Abu Dujanah </i><b>The world's going mad.</b>

May Allah destroy the Kuffar and those who support them, ameen

Hey "chicken little", do you ever post anything that is not fully derogatory to the United States?

What makes you believe that wishing death to a county makes you a good person?

Allah calls for the love of all mankind. Perhaps your prayers for those you believe are off track would be worth more than your juvenile wishes for death to them.

[phatmonky]

<i>Originally posted by waheedrafiq </i><b>First of all god bless America . I strongly agree with the point made above , however , its up to American people to defend each other and to unite as brother and sister you guy’s will need community events like Hala curry , street party , face paints for the kids , its these kind of events that will let America show the rest of the world it means peace.</b>

No body should have nuclear bombs we don’t need it , and all of us human should be looking to help the poorer

What is Hala Curry??

We have the rest of that - I don't understand how this shows the world we mean peace. Believe it or not, kids ride bikes here, we enjoy the simple things like having families, and most people wish simply to live happily (not rich). According many on this site, and elsewhere, we are all devils plotting our next step in the destruction of humanity. People are actually adapting the word "Empire" just so they can find a way to make it fit, when it doesn't. But alas, I digress. Appeasment doesn't work, and history has shown this. The right course of action isn't always the popular one, and only time will tell who has made the right choices.

As for the second part of your post. Of course no one should have nuclear weapons, but that's too late. The technology exists.

If you make guns illegal, do you believe that police officers should not have guns as well? That leave those willing to break the law with the most powerful weapon. Instead, I propose that in reality a controlled arsenal means that no country has absolute power, and no country with Hitler-like aspirations can hold the world at bay.

The United States gives the largest amount of Aid to other countries. We are number two in the percentage (second only to Japan, who we recently outdid on this number as well). We provide 80% of the budget to the UN, have spent billions creating peace in Europe, and all of this is overlooked because Saddam Hussein claims to be a muslim.

What the rest of the world needs to learn, is that their hate for us, is why we elect people like George Bush (who has a very low international rating in the polls I have viewed). We don't want a President who sits by and does nothing while people plot to attack the "fat, lazy, stupid, arrogrant Americans".

You can look to people like " Abu Dujanah " for the truth of what many people believe. It's not a far stretch from this line of thinking, to "Why don't I act on behalf of Allah and destroy them myself??".

[MichelleSeeking]

"The world's going mad.

May Allah destroy the Kuffar and those who support them, ameen"

Hmmm...I wonder if one of the big reasons the world has "gone mad" is because folks sic God on one another.

What kind of crazy nonsense is that anyway? Abu Dujanah I feel sorry for you. You have such agonizing depths of hatred and they will do nothing but make you miserable.