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Anyone Else In This Situation!!!
#1

AS SALAAMU ALAIKUM WA RAHMATULLAH.....

My dear brothers and sisters i am in a situation...and was wondering if any of you were in this situation also.......

You see... i grew up with many friends of the kuffar.... many of whom were good people... I always heard scholars say that these friendships were not sanctioned in islam (can someone clear me up on this...) But i did not take them seriously...

last year my non muslim friend died... and only when i stared into his grave did i understand......

only when i stared into that horrid pit, did the reality of friendship hit me.... Only then did i understand the importance of this concept of friendship that was spoken of in islam....

i think what i gather is that i should keep my muslim brothers and sisters as my friends.... and the kuffar as "acpuaintances..." maybe i can give them da'wah...

but the question arises... how is it that i do this... where am i to start..... How do i tell my kafir freinds about my position...what about the peer pressure..

i guess the reason that i started this tread is to get advice on this topic from my muslim brothers and sisters.....

i am open to any suggestions that you may have

wa salaam

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#2

Assalaamu alaikum.

The meaning about the not taking non-believers as friends, as what I was taught, was not to take them as friends OVER believers. If a choice has to be made then you should show your allegiance to the believers. This is of course only regarding matters where there is a difference between what Islam states and what the non-believer wants you to do/accept.

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#3

wa aleikum salam

Quote:i think what i gather is that i should keep my muslim brothers and sisters as my friends.... and the kuffar as \"acpuaintances...\" maybe i can give them da'wah...
This is the wise way akhee. You give daw'ah and keep the boundaries.

Quote:The meaning about the not taking non-believers as friends, as what I was taught, was not to take them as friends OVER believers
This was not the way of the Prophet or the sahaba.

The Prophet sws said In an authentic Hadith,: <b>"A person is likely to follow the faith of his friend, so look whom you befriend."</b> (Abu Dawood and at-Tirmidhee)

In two other authentic narrations of the Prophet (s.a.w.) <b>we were commanded to keep company with a believer only. </b> (Bukhari and Muslim),

<b>And told that a person will be raised with those he loves</b>

(Abu Dawood and at Tirmidhee).

Ali (r.a.a.) said: <b>"Mix with the noble people, you become one of them; and keep away from evil people to protect yourself from their evils."</b>

<b>On the other side, a believer is the mirror of his brother"</b>(Abu Dawood- hassan), and if he sees any faults in the other believer, he draws his attention to it, helps him to give it up and helps him wipe away any evil that he may have. Ibn Hazm said: Anyone who criticises you cares about your friendship. Anyone who makes light of your faults cares nothing about you."

<b>And Allah, the All-Wise also says: "Friends on that Day will be enemies one to another, except al-Muttaqoon (i.e. those who have Taqwah)." [43:67] </b>

Hafidh Ibn Katheer, commenting on this verse, relates a story on the authority of Ali Ibn Abi Talib (r.a.a.) and says that any friendship for other than Allah is turned into enmity, except what was in it for Allah the Mighty and Majestic: Two who are friends for Allah's sake; one of them dies and is given good news that he will be granted al-Jannah, so he remembered his friend and he supplicated for him, saying: O Allah, my friend used to command me to obey You and to obey Your Prophet (s.a.w.) and used to command me to do good and to forbid me from doing evil. And he told me that I will meet You. O Allah, do not let him go astray after me, until you show him what you have just shown me, until You are satisfied with him, just like You are satisfied with me." So he is told: "Had you known what is (written) for you friend, would you have laughed a lot and cried a little." Then his friend dies and their souls are gathered, and both are asked to express their opinions about each other. So each one of them says to his friend: you were the best brother, the best companion and the best friend." And when on of the two disbelieving friends dies, and he is given tidings of Hellfire, he remembered his friend and he said: O Allah, my friend used to order me to disobey You and disobey Your Prophet, and commanded me to do evil, and forbade me from doing good, and told me that I would not meet You. O Allah, do not guide him after me, until you show him what you have just shown me and until you are dissatisfied with him just like You are dissatisfied with me." Then the other disbelieving friend dies, and their souls are gathered, and both are asked to give their opinions about each other. So each one says to his friend: you were the worst brother, the worst companion and the worst friend."

Also Ibn Qayyim explains that one of the sickness of the heart is keeping bad company.

We should be VERY careful the company we keep, even amongst muslims.

Would not the kuffar fall into this fourth catergory described by Ibn Qayyim?

Keeping Bad Company

Ibn Qayyim

Unnecessary companionship is a chronic disease that causes much harm. How often have the wrong kind of companionship and intermixing deprived people of Allâh's generosity, planting discord in their hearts which even the passage of time-even if it were long enough for mountains to be worn away-has been unable to dispel. In keeping such company one can find the roots of loss, both in this life and in the next life.

A servant should benefit from companionship. In order to do so he should divide people into four categories, and be careful not to get them mixed up, for once one of them is mixed with another, then evil can find its way through to him:

The FIRST category are those people whose company is like food: it is indispensable, night or day. Once a servant has taken his need from it, he leaves it be until he requires it again, and so on. These are the people with knowledge of Allâh-of His commands, of the scheming of His enemies, and of the diseases of the heart and their remedies- who wish well for Allâh, His Prophet saw and His servants. Associating with this type of person is an achievement in itself.

The SECOND category are those people whose company is like a medicine. They are only required when a disease sets in. When you are healthy, you have no need of them. However, mixing with them is sometimes necessary for your livelihood, businesses, consultation and the like. Once what you need from them has been fulfilled, mixing with them should be avoided.

The THIRD category are those people whose company is harmful. Mixing with this type of person is like a disease, in all its variety and degrees and strengths and weaknesses. Associating with one or some of them is like an incurable chronic disease. You will never profit either in this life or in the next life if you have them for company, and you will surely lose either one or both of your deen and your livelihood because of them. If their companionship has taken hold of you and is established, then it becomes a fatal, terrifying sickness.

Amongst such people are those who neither speak any good that might benefit you, nor listen cloesly to you so that they might benefit from you. They do not know their souls and consequently put their selves in their rightful place. If they speak, their words fall on their listeners' hearts like the lashes of a cane, while all the while they are full of admiration for and delight in their own words.

They cause distress to those in their company, while believing that they are the sweet scent of the gathering. If they are silent, they are heavier than a massive millstone-too heavy to carry or even drag across the floor. [1]

All in all, mixing with anyone who is bad for the soul will not last, even if it is unavoidable. It can be one of the most distressing aspects of a servant's life that he is plagued by such person, with whom it may be necessary to associate. In such a relationship, a servant should cling to good behaviour, only presenting him with his outward appearance, while disguising his inner soul, until Allâh offers him a way out of his affliction and the means of escape from this situation.

The FOURTH category are those people whose company is doom itself. It is like taking poision: its victim either finds an antidote or perishes. Many people belong to this category. They are the people of religious innovation and misguidance, those who abandon the sunnah of the Messenger of Allâh saw and advocate other beliefs. They call what is the sunnah a bid'a and vice-versa. A man with any intellect should not sit in their assemblies nor mix with them. The result of doing so will either be the death of his heart or, at the very best, its falling seriously ill.

[1.] Ash-Shâfî', may Allâh be pleased with him, is reported to have said, "Whenever a tedious person sits next to me, the side on which he is sitting feels lower down than the other side of me."

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#4

Jazaakallah khair Umm Habibah

Quote:Would not the kuffar fall into this fourth catergory described by Ibn Qayyim?
I must agree on this...

you went in detail UmmHabibah about the types of freindships... But please give me your advice on this

How do i deal with people of this category when i live in such a westernised situation... In fact it is rare that i come across any muslims in school except if i go to these islamic places like lectures masjid etc.....

do you have any advice on this

salaams

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#5
wow, so I shouldn't expect my Islamic friends to stick by me if another Islamic friend asks them to do otherwise?
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#6

wa aleikum salam

We can only do our best ahkee. If we live in a non islamic enviroment we do have to try to live as a muslim. And non muslim friends especially when your'e young and prehaps could be easily influenced, is dangerous. There has to be boundries. Shaytain could fool you into thinking youre doing dawa'a and before you know it they will influence you to commit haram. Its dangerous.

What do we have in common with non muslims?

And as Allah tala says, they will never be happy with us until we follow them. Or another ayat, the disbelievers only beckon you to the fire.

There are so many warnings in the Quran. So many hadiths. As in my previous post.

I went to college in a non muslim enviroment, there were a couple of muslims on my course, but not my type. There were no men on my course. And i would be polite with the other girls. But i never associated with them outside, nor would i have ever allowed one to come to my home. And i was already married at the time. And i never considered them to be friends. No, they were just people with whom i had dealings, and i was polite as long as they were. And this is the way of the muslim. And at lunch times i would walk home to make salat. This helped to make the boundaries, even with the other muslims who didn't mind missing their salat. And i would leave early when neccesary not to miss the salat. We have to chose our company carefully. My nasheeha would be to keep yourself to yourself as much as possible and be patient. And if you could go home at break times, this is best. Whats the point of college if your'e missing your salat? Or ask if there is a room where you could pray and at break times you could go quietly and read in there.

Try to attend Islamic lectures, seminars frequently and make muslims friends. You need muslims friends. And GOOD muslim friends. And spend your social time with them. As muslims we understand one another, and we have the same priorities (that is assuming we are practising our deen). We encourage one another to good deeds and we correct one another. We support one another fisabeelilah and we love another fisabeelilah.

You won't find this with the kuffar.

This alone is warning enough.

The Prophet sws said In an authentic Hadith,: <b>"A person is likely to follow the faith of his friend, so look whom you befriend." </b> (Abu Dawood and at-Tirmidhee)

There's another hadith where the Prophet stated: If you want to know the man look at his friends. The daleel could go on and on...................

Just be patient akhee and let this time pass. You may feel you are missing out on something, but your'e not. This is just the whisperings of the shayateen.

And on the day of iqahma Allah azza wa jaal will ask us how long did you stay on earth and we'll answer a day or part of a day. SubhanAllah this dunya is so insignificant. And we inshallah will have the akhira.

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#7

Another thing, if your'e of marrying age then you should consider this. Its a very good way of preserving ones self when surrounded by western influnences. And you didn't mention if your family is muslim. If they are so Alhamdulillah, they could help you in this. And we shouldn't take the western concept of marrying at twenty or thirty something! SubhanAllah.

We should marry young. And if we are sincere then Allah tala will make a way even if you don't have much money just now. If we keep the boundaries of Allah tala, He tala will provide.

We should do whatever it takes to protect ourselves. And keeping kuffar friends, just goes against all of this.

salaam

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Quote:<i>Originally posted by UmmHabibah </i><b></b>

We should marry young.
why is that?

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#9

Umm well this is another thing.. my immediate family is muslim alhamdulillah for that... but some of them including my father is not practising this deen... my mother was a hindu prior to this marriage... thus i am left with alot of family who are deeply rooted into this hinduism... this major shirk.. and they love this way of life...

umm when my grandmother died(a hindu) i looked at her and cried cause i knew that jahannam was for her... now i look at my cousins who i love and say OH MY GOD... honestly i have given up.. do what do you think of this... what am i to say for them...

how do i deal with this they are non muslims... should i just leave them alone

please produce daleel

jazaakallah khair umm

as salam alykom akhi

Mash a Allah I must say that Umm produced a full reply on this Jazaki Allah khairan it is an important topic.

About your situation, just remember that the Messenger himself (sallah Allah u a`alyehee wa sallam) was in the same situation having part of his immediate family members even loved ones like his uncle Abu Taleb who were pagans. Just remember as well that many of the sahaba suffered the same problem. Many of us suffer also some members of the family who are not practicing but remember brother the ayah that say:

"And no bearer of burdens shall bear another’s burden; and if one heavily laden calls another to (bear) his load, nothing of it will be lifted even though he be near of kin. You (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) can warn only those who fear their Lord unseen and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât). And he who purifies himself (from all kinds of sins), then he purifies only for the benefit of his ownself. And to Allâh is the (final) Return (of all)." (Quran 35:18). meaning that no one will be of benefit on the Day of Judegment no matter how u loved them in this life. I know it is painful when u know the destiney of the loved ones but u continue making dua and dawa'a for them. U r commanded to do so by virtue of this Ayah:"And warn your tribe (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) of near kindred.[1]" (Quran 26:214) In this Ayah Allah is commanding the Messenger (sallah Allah a`alyehee wa sallam) to talk to and warn his close relatives, u know of course that this in turn is a command for us. The same meaning is confirmed here:

"O you who believe! Ward off yourselves and your families against a Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, over which are (appointed) angels stern (and) severe, who disobey not, (from executing) the Commands they receive from Allâh, but do that which they are commanded" (Quran 66:6). I know how u feel, but giving dawa`a to them is a must. Dont expect to be welcomed, remember that the road of dawa`ah is not carpeted with flowers. But it is an honor, it is the heritage of Prophets and Messengers. We all face this and the hardest dawa`a we give is to our close relatives. However, dont do it alone, I mean seek Allah's close help and support at each prayer, ask Allah to help u much u need it. U can not do it without His help and support Akhi.

Focus on your close relatives, do it is a nice way, dont be harsh, Allah say "And by the Mercy of Allâh, you dealt with them gently. And had you been severe and harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about you; so pass over (their faults), and ask (Allâh’s) Forgiveness for them; and consult them in the affairs. Then when you have taken a decision, put your trust in Allâh, certainly, Allâh loves those who put their trust (in Him)." (Quran 3:159)

I hope I was of help, may Allah support and help u akhi and all ummah

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Quote:<i>Originally posted by JohnDoe </i><b>Are you open to suggestions from a \"kuffir\" ? </b>
No John u can not give any comments here, u dont abide by the same rule and this is a very important topic.

And i also must say we will stay on topic here and both of u and Phat would refrain of making jokes in this thread. It has nothing to concern u.

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