Am I wrong for feeling like I do about this?? (USA + Israel)

[Muslimah]

<i>Originally posted by phatmonky </i><b>I meant no respect my that post you edited- I was honestly offering an alternative for her, while I continued with those willing. Sorry if it came across sarcastic </b>

As for bragging, I meant to in now way. Michelle has taken offense, and I guess I got short with the unfounded rants, instead of correcting them one by one. I'll find a better way to tell her to slow down in the future

Well at least you explained Alhamdulelah we really care to maintain this spirit of freindly relation here on the board

And Michelle very true Allah is the All Knowing, if u noticed, I simply stopped giving input, the whole situaition is so ambigous to people. But Allah shall soon give a way out Insh aAllah

[MichelleSeeking]

I am very frustrated and disapointed and I would like to share why so that perhaps we can find a solution.

I posted this topic so that I could hear the other side of the Palestinian/Isralei story. I have grown up listening to the American version and now I want the non-American version. I feel that this is the only way for me to achive a well-rounded view of what is going on.

However, now that you have arrived, PhatMonkey, you have dominated this discussion and I feel as if you are trying to bully me into accepting only your views and to ignore eveyone else's.

I did not post this topic to get into arguments or debates or fights. Up until you arrived I found every post to be offered peacefully and open ended: I had the freedom to agree or disagree without being insulted and persecuted or having my posts picked apart line-by-line and responded to with superiority and sarcasm.

If I agree with the non-American versions you claim that I am listening to "biased" posts.

If I point out what you are doing or saying, you claim that I am putting words in your mouth and then continue to be very rude and condecending towards me.

If I attempt to share my opinions so that others may offer me their own, you accuse me of making "unfounded rants".

Then you write long sarcastic posts where you accuse me of being uneducated and then you claim that you "must correct" my so-called unfounded rants "one by one" and tell me to "slow down in the future".

What makes you think that YOU and you alone have all of the answers and that you "must" correct me? Why do you assume that YOUR version of the story is the only one? Why do you come here and dominate this topic and turn it into a hostile environment? I do no appreciate this one bit. Please stop attempting to force your opinions upon me. You've made your point, I've seen your opinions, now it's time to please let me move on to other opinions.

I would like to ask that you please allow this topic to continue on the peaceful path that it originally led. I was receiving very good information and imput from non-American as well as American muslims on both sides of the world. I would like to continue in this fashion.

I am extending the olive branch and asking for peace. Will you allow it please?

Thank you very much.

I would like to continue hearing from as many people as possible about this subject so that I may see and understand what is going on beyond the American "point of view". This is the only way that we Americans will come to know the full truth of what is taking place.

[SisterJennifer]

<i>Originally posted by MichelleSeeking </i><b>I would like to continue hearing from as many people as possible about this subject so that I may see and understand what is going on beyond the American "point of view". This is the only way that we Americans will come to know the full truth of what is taking place. </b>

Hi Michelle,

It was not until just a couple years ago that I started to explore the other side myself, like you are now. One piece of advice I can offer you is to look at other nations news broadcasts, if you are able. I don't know what the programming is like where you are, but here in Wisconsin, the CSPAN channel from time to time offers news from Lebanon, Egypt, UAE, and some Europian countries. BBC is a regular on PBS. It's really surprizing the difference in the style of reporting, and footage that I have never seen (nor do I imagine I ever will) on CNN, FOX, or the other American stations.

Other than that, I rely on my friends to tell me what it was like in their countries, internet (which makes me a bit leary) and well-chosen books.

Take care Michelle.

[MichelleSeeking]

The main reason that I know for a fact that there is "another side" to the story is that I constantly watched the news in Bahrain when I lived there. The news over there is brutal compaired with American news - they show just about EVERYTHING including bloody bodies in the streets. You can't help but know what is going on around the world. We weren't shielded and "protected" over there like we are here in America.

However, I wasn't exposed to the AMERICAN version of the news while in Bahrain so I didn't see inconsitencies. Therefore I wasn't asking the questions I have posted on the forum. Does that make sense?

When I returned to America I did noticed that our news seemed to be very censored even though we have "freedom of the press". This feeling is what started the ball rolling. I started to see the "shielding and protecting" more as a way of keeping the truth away from the American public while at the same time having more control over how we viewed things around the world through powerful suggestion and minimal exposure to "the other side of the story".

Right now I don't have much access to the news at all. I don't own a TV and when the news is on (and I can convince people to leave it on and quit whining) I only have channels like FOX and CNN. From my past experience with the news in the Middle East I now know that I am seeing things from a very VERY narrow perspective while watching Fox and CNN.

Hence, this thread!

[Muslimah]

good shot Michelle. Insh a Allah will give u more feed back....

not now later, but just now, the story goes beyond the Paletenian/ Israeli conflict, it goes even back since the Crusaders. I could not imagine that they forged the history and claimed that Salahu Deen army was defeated. no he was not he was able to win the war and force the Crusades out of Palestine. Besides did u check the link I gave u of the Jewish organization???

[Muslimah]

as salam a`alaman itaba`alhoda

Michelle I found something on this track may be of benefit, but can not provide a link, listen look at Los Angeles Times of 14 and 16/10. Both issues have articles about Isreal's nuclear weapons. Look it up Insha Allah will add much info to u.