Todays message for Christian guest

[abdulwalee]

<b>Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to an agreement between us and you: that we shall worship none but Allah, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside Allah. And if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto Him) </b>


[Qur'an 3:64]


<b>God is One. There is no Trinity</b>. Jesus(P) is a prophet of God, and like all his fellow prophets, he is a human being. We love him, and believe in him, and affirm all of his miracles, bestowed upon him as a favour from his Lord. He called for the worship of God alone and for righteousness - as every prophet of God has done. However, his pure monotheistic message was gradually changed by some 'Christians' into a polytheistic one, by transforming Jesus(P), the servant of God, into a mythological God-incarnate figure to be worshipped alongside God All-Mighty. This distortion of the message of Jesus(P) is the religion called Christianity.


All praise is due to God, who is guiding many Christians to realise that God is truly One, the All-Mighty, free of all imperfections, and that everlasting salvation lies in turning to Him and Him only in all acts of worship, that Jesus(P) is the messenger of God, and that Muhammad is the last of the messengers of God. You are invited to read the testimonies of many former Christians who have embraced Islam, but bear in mind that this is only a drop in the ocean, as daily there are hundreds of conversions from Christianity to Islam all around the world. Amongst the most powerful and thought-provoking testimonies are those of former Christian priests and missionaries who have discovered the one true religion.


If you are a Christian, then we invite you to embrace Islam, the one true religion of Abraham(P), Moses(P), Jesus(P), and Muhammad , by bearing witness that there is none worthy of worship but God and that Muhammad is the final messenger of God. In doing so, you will have taken the path of true guidance and submission to God. All human beings are born pure, and by embracing Islam, you will return to the original and sinless state in which God created you. You will experience true freedom - the pure, direct, and exclusive worship of the One True God, free of any intermediaries between you and Him. You will find that you have entered a religion pure and clear, free of confusion and contradiction, with a preserved Book and a beautiful way of life. And in the hereafter, you will abide forever in peace, in gardens beneath which rivers flow, and you will look upon the Face of the Lord.

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.

I'm not christian but I have a few questions;


1. Supposing a christian says mohammad wasn't a prophet, islam is not for me.


2. Dear muslim, won't you consider following the teachings of jesus ? After all, you acknowledge that he is a prophet and jesus has good form compared to your "prophet" mohammed.

Well, his invitation will be respected, but yet rejected, because we don’t need to follow anyone else.


Salam


Wael.

[SisterJennifer]

It is not about "Christian" prophets, or "Muslim" prophets. All prophets come from the same God, the first being Adam, the last being Muhammad (pbut). All Prophets are on the same religion.

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.

Yes, if he is lucky that is.

Don’t worry, they are all lucky, the Christian missionaries are all over the world preaching their faith freely, even in Arab countries.


Salam


Wael.

[abdulwalee]

I'm not christian but I have a few questions;


1. Supposing a christian says mohammad wasn't a prophet, islam is not for me.


2. Dear muslim, won't you consider following the teachings of jesus ? After all, you acknowledge that he is a prophet and jesus has good form compared to your "prophet" mohammed.

I would first ask him based on what information did he derive this conclusion? Than I would say to them That The Prophet Muhammad was sent to all of mankind and Jinn, Then I would proceed to offer some proof for this statement. And That Jesus was only sent to His People Banee Israel, than I would also Offer that proof.

[abdulwalee]

Surely you jest ?

<b>Yet Islam still remains the fastest growing faith in the world </b>

[abdulwalee]

Proof ? Now that would be interesting. because in the thousands of years man has been killing his fellow man over various deities, not one shred of proof has been produced to make any conclusion.

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Todays Message for Christian guest <b>God is Three in a Trinity? How strange.....</b>


<b>Question </b>


Jesus said; "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit," (Matthew 28:19); does this not prove that the `Doctrine of Trinity' and its present day formula was communicated and promulgated by Jesus Christ himself?


<b>Answer </b>


With all due respect, we tend to disagree in view of the following compelling evidences:-


1. `Peake's Commentary on the Bible' published since 1919, is universally welcomed and considered to be the standard reference book for the students of the Bible. Commenting on the above verse it records; "This mission is described in the language of the church and most commentators doubt that the trinitarian formula was original at this point in Mt.'s Gospel, since the NT elsewhere does not know of such a formula and describes baptism as being performed in the name of the Lord Jesus (e.g. Ac. 2:38, 8:16, etc.)."


2. Tom Harpur, author of several bestsellers and a former professor of New Testament, writes in his book `For Christ's Sake'; "All but the most conservative of scholars agree that at least the latter part of this command was inserted later. The formula occurs nowhere else in the New Testament, and we know from the only evidence available (the rest of the New Testament) that the earliest Church did not baptise people using these words - baptism was "into" or "in" the name of Jesus alone."


3. The above command (authentic or otherwise) does not indicate that the three names mentioned in the formula are or were, "co- equal" in their status, as well as, were "co-eternal" in the time frame, to conform with the acknowledged `Doctrine of Trinity'.


4. If the Father and His Son were both in "existence" from the Day One, and no one was, a micro second before or after, and, no one was "greater or lesser" in status, than why is one called the Father and the other His begotten Son?


5. Did the act of "Begetting" take place? If YES, where was the "Begotten Son" before the act? If NO, why call him the "Begotten Son"?


Hot Tip:


"And Peter said to them, `Repent, and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins;...'" (Acts 2:38). It is most unlikely that apostle Peter would have disobeyed the specific command of Jesus Christ for baptising in the three names and baptized them in the name of Jesus Christ, alone.


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Question


Apostle John in his first Epistle, chapter 5 and verse 7 wrote: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one."; is this not a fair testimony to acknowledge the `Doctrine of Trinity'?


<b>Answer </b>


1. The text quoted does appear in the Kings James Version but has been omitted by most of the editors of the recent versions e.g. Revised Standard Version, New American Standard Bible, New English Bible, Phillips Modern English Bible, because the quoted text does not appear in the older Greek manuscripts.


2. Renowned historian Edward Gibbon calls the addition a "Pious Fraud" in his famous history book `Decline and Fall of Roman Empire'.


3. Peakes commentary on the subject reads; "The famous interpolation after "three witnesses" is not printed even in RSVn, and rightly. It cites the heavenly testimony of the Father, the logos, and the Holy Spirit, but is never used in the early trinitarian controversies. No respectable Greek MS contains it. Appearing first in a late 4th-cent. Latin text, it entered the Vulgate and finally the NT of Erasmus."


Hot Tip:


Notwithstanding the above rejections, the verse that follows the quoted text reads in KJV; "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood; and these three agree in one." (1John5:8). Are these three witnesses "co-equal"? Can blood be substituted with water? Can water be regarded as the same in any respect with the Spirit? Just as the spirit, the blood and the water are three separate entities, so are the first three witnesses, namely; the Father, the Son (Word, Logos) and the Holy Spirit (Ghost).

[Curious Christian]

Funny....you feel free to post a picture of the Pope in an effort to compare him to a character from a Hollywood movie....what would you say if I posted a similar depiction of Mohammed?


Islam isn't the fastest growing religion in the world either. That is always a loaded statistic.


I could start a religion tomorrow. If I got 10 of my friends to join with me within one year than my religion would have grown 1000% in one year! Then I could claim to have the fastest growing religion?


Message to Muslims for the day.


Heaven is about adoring God and worshiping Him. Not about sexual gratification.

[abdulwalee]

Funny....you feel free to post a picture of the Pope in an effort to compare him to a character from a Hollywood movie....what would you say if I posted a similar depiction of Mohammed?


Islam isn't the fastest growing religion in the world either. That is always a loaded statistic.


I could start a religion tomorrow. If I got 10 of my friends to join with me within one year than my religion would have grown 1000% in one year! Then I could claim to have the fastest growing religion?


Message to Muslims for the day.


Heaven is about adoring God and worshiping Him. Not about sexual gratification.

First you must Know God and How to worship Him.... <b>Christian Intellect has left the room</b> Christianity 101..... :D :D :D
Do You.... I'm Not an Extreamist I wont be screaming in the streets nor trying to kill anyone. nor burning an American Flag. This is not our way. You brought the heat I'm just bringing the fire until you show some respect and scholarship. I'll interact with you antagonist this way. I went back in the post of both of you guys and you've been very disrespectful throughout your time on this forum... So a little taste of your own medecine. Islam is on Offense.... "Know what I'm saying"The Deen of Islam is Protected By Allah, surely you're not offended by this image of the so-called holy father... Peganism at it's worst! just in the fact that someone is refered to by "the Holy father"

[abdulwalee]

You have documented your blatant intolerance many times already therefore I am not interested in your cut and paste hatchet job on christianity.

<b>What a joke..</b>