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This is the american DEMOCRACY
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12-26-2006, 07:27 PM
Peace..... Ok, just checking. Thanks for the warm reception. Yeah, I've been good, just had to focus on my classes and whatnot. But now that leg is behind me and I can relax for a while before gearing up again. :) Shamms 
12-26-2006, 07:29 PM
Bismillah Ok that is good, i understand how classes can be really hectic. :)
12-27-2006, 02:55 AM
Quote:Bismillah If by “arguing back” you’re referring to challenging your position then yes, I’m arguing back. You seem to have this inability to separate challenges to your opinions with attacks on your belief. In a forum such as this, you should expect that not everyone is going to simply roll over and believe as you do, especially when your opinions are little more than subjective commentary.
12-27-2006, 05:05 AM
Quote:Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ) till you follow their religion. Say: "Verily, the Guidance of Allâh (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism) that is the (only) Guidance. And if you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ) were to follow their (Jews and Christians) desires after what you have received of Knowledge (i.e. the Qur'ân), then you would have against Allâh neither any Walî (protector or guardian) nor any helper. (Al-Baqarah 2:120) Isn't it scarey how the Qura'n so perfectly describes so many things we see today? :o
12-27-2006, 07:54 AM
Bismillah Jazaki Allah khairan shaunee for posting this, there are more to describe RT attitude who stands as a clear evidence for Quran to be True. Alhamdulelah shaunee we are Muslims, Alhamdulelah. Sobhan Allah, this in itself is a challenge from Allah that Quran shall remain true throughout the times.
12-27-2006, 08:08 AM
Bismillah Just check this: In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, Most Merciful US Marines Face Iraq Murder Trial Eight US Marines Have Been Charged Over the Deaths of 24 Iraqi Civilians in the Town of Haditha Last Year. Four are accused of unpremeditated murder and four others are charged with attempting to cover up the incident. Men, women and children were killed by marines who said they were under attack from insurgents at the time. Meanwhile, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has said that despite the cost in lives and money, the war in Iraq has been "worth the investment". She told the Associated Press news agency that this was because once Iraq emerged as a stabilizing factor it would produce a very different kind of Middle East. The BBC Washington correspondent says the comments show that, despite the calls of many advising the White House to treat the Arab-Israeli conflict as the real key to peace, Ms Rice still clearly believes that Iraq should be the centrepiece of US Middle East policy. Leadership debate Squad leader Staff Sgt Frank Wuterich has been charged with the unpremeditated murder of 12 Iraqis and ordering his troops to kill six people, his lawyer Neal Puckett said. Lance Cpl Justin Sharratt has also been charged with three such counts, his legal representatives say. It is the biggest US criminal case to emerge from the war in Iraq in terms of Iraqis killed. The US military initially said the civilians died in unrest. If found guilty of second-degree murder, the marines could face life imprisonment. The BBC's Nick Miles in Washington says the case has provoked debate about the training and leadership of American troops in Iraq and the way in which counter-insurgency operations are being conducted there. The defence team say a group of marines from Kilo Company in America's First Marine Division were engaged in a furious battle on 19 November 2005 in Haditha after a roadside bomb exploded, killing one marine and injuring two others. It is known that five unarmed men were shot dead in a car when they approached the scene in a taxi and others, including women and children, died in three houses over the next few hours. Those who died included a 76-year-old man and a three-year-old child. There were also several women among the dead. An initial marine press statement said that some civilians were killed in the initial explosion and others in crossfire by insurgents. But local people say that there were no bullets fired other than by the marines. The defence lawyers accept that innocent civilians may have died during the chaos but they deny premeditated killing. Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki has called the deaths a "terrible crime". Dangerous place According to the charge sheets, Sgt Wuterich ordered his men to "shoot first and ask questions later" when they entered a house, the Associated Press news agency reported. There was no full US investigation into what happened until three months later when video footage that was taken by a local human rights activist of the aftermath reached Time Magazine. Once their report showed flaws in the initial marine statement, an investigation began. The Haditha inquiry is just one of a number the US military has been conducting into incidents of alleged unlawful killings by US forces in Iraq. Haditha, 96km (60 miles) north of Baghdad, is the furthest in a string of settlements up the Euphrates that have been prominent in the Sunni insurgency. Anbar province, which includes Haditha, remains the most dangerous place in Iraq for Americans. About 100 US troops have been killed there since August this year. Article from http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/midd...ast/6198947.stm --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article from http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/midd...ast/6198947.stm Just in case anyone failed to see the source.
12-27-2006, 08:16 AM
Bismillah shuanee just to continue on your line of effort, look at this Ayah and compare the attitude, Sobhan Allah, Truth Sayer Is Allah: "Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: "We are Christians." That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud ." (Quran 5:82) The second underlined part would be better translated as they are not arrogant. Arrogance is closely associated with non believing. "Surely, those who are with your Lord (angels) are never too proud to perform acts of worship to Him, but they glorify His Praise and prostrate before Him." (Quran 7:206) <b>"Truly, when it was said to them: Laa ilaaha ill-Allah "(none has the right to be worshipped but Allah)," they puffed themselves up with pride (i.e. denied it)." (Quran 37:35) </b>
12-27-2006, 10:42 AM
Quote:Bismillah :asalam: I quoted from the orginal post from sis radiya. It stood right out to me. I like the ayats you posted as well. There is a saying I aquired a long time ago "God don't like haughty". How true that is. Pride is what satan had.... and we see what happened ever since. <_<
12-28-2006, 12:10 AM
Quote:It is the biggest US criminal case Muslimah...you proved my point. The US military is the one who is trying the case! Why would the US military order its troops to murder people and then bring charges against them? If it is true then it is the acts of soliders acting alone and not under orders. The far left media in the US and around the world would love it if the US was trying "murder" muslims...but they aren't. The very fact that the Haditha incident is under investigation by the United States of America tells me that much!
12-28-2006, 12:13 AM
Quote:Your media is also lying to you. I know about 15 men which have served in the military in Iraq...they must be lying too? |
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