What to expect from prayer?

[WITNESS THE REAL]

<b>Should we not ask the Lord for help?</b>



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If you are ordinary person you should follow the rules of your deeds and nature. If you are a devotee, even then, you should not ask God for help. Your devotion must not aspire any result. You are asking God for help means that you want God to violate his own natural rules. The impression of millions of angles and sages is disturbed if God violates his own rules. That will give a poor impression on God. You are putting God to inconvenience by forcing him to use his supernatural power. Whether you are a devotee or not, you must always try to solve your problems by putting your best effort. If you fail, even then, do not ask God to help you. Then, you think that it is your fate and worship God as usual. Arjuna was fighting with his grandfather, Bhishma. Arjuna was not putting up his best effort to kill Bhishma. He was having sympathy to Bhishma, who has brought up Arjuna. Noting this, Krishna took his Sudarshana chakra and ran to kill Bhishma.


That means the Lord tried to solve the problem of Arjuna through His divine power. Arjuna did not agree to this and forced Krishna to stop, because Arjuna knew about his inadequate effort. But when Sindhava was to be killed, Arjuna tried his best, because Arjuna took an oath to kill Sindhava before sunset and otherwise he promised that he would enter the fire. Since the sunset took place apparently due to the Maya of Krishna, Arjuna stopped fighting and wanted to enter the fire.


He was just going to jump into the fire but he never asked for help. He thought that was his fate. Therefore, the Lord helped him secretly. Therefore, if you put your best effort, still fail because it is beyond your limits, if you happen to be a real devotee and do not ask for the help from God, then you will be helped by the super power secretly. The secrecy is due to preservation of the sacredness of his administration in the eyes of others.


At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami


Anil Antony


www.universal-spirituality.org


Universal Spirituality for World Peace


antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

I am asking you directly and you are moving about. Stun me with brilliant knowledge and not bore me with sage talk. Come from your self. Drop your self-importance and share, can you do that?

[voice of reason]

Bismillah


salam Voice of reason


Mash a Allah, not only this is an essential topic and a quest you are desiring an answer to, this is the core of interest of every human being.


but let me tell u, never take a delayed response Perhaps I am predestined to be destroyed?


. No way, Allah Is the Merciful. The minute you step one inch towards Allah, Allah Shall certainly Extend a Hand to pick you up. BTW voice, you dont even need to be certain while praying, since you are praying to be guided. I mean asking u to be certain will be illogical for the reason actually that triggered your need to pray is that u are not sure.


Am I making sense to you.


You know what Voice, you are not the only one in this Universe who went thru this phase, you know who else went thru this? can u guess? well not to loose the point, Prophet Abraham.


Yes Prophet Abraham went thru this Voice. And Alhamdulelah he was guided.


I have a suggestion and a question, when u r praying, are you praying in general for guidance to know whether or not a god exists or do you pray for some specific god?


I will wait for your answer before I continue Insh aAllah. :)

I have tried both. I have never heard any word at all. I do seek if there is a god, I think it important to not be closed minded. An open mind to me is very important and is crucial in reasonable thinking.


I, like other humans have experianced pain emotional and physical and also am curious. I have sought after a god but alas, no answers at all.


I wish there would be an answer it would be a comfort I think.


Thank you for replying and peace to you and yours.


Voice of Reason

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah:

I have tried both. I have never heard any word at all. I do seek if there is a god, I think it important to not be closed minded. An open mind to me is very important and is crucial in reasonable thinking.


I, like other humans have experianced pain emotional and physical and also am curious. I have sought after a god but alas, no answers at all.


I wish there would be an answer it would be a comfort I think.


Thank you for replying and peace to you and yours.


Voice of Reason

Why don’t you visit some mosques nearby your area? get to know some Muslim friends there and open discussion with them, observe the way how Muslims offer their prayers, try to prostrate as I told you before seeking help from the One who Created everything. And Insha’Allah he is going to answer, don’t give up, sometimes when Allah test His people harder, the reward would be higher insha'Allah.


may Allah guide you.


Salam


Wael

[Rock]

Bismillah


Voice of reason


Why did you think that Allah did`nt response you.


Your continous trial to search the truth is guiedance from Allah,your real desire to get Allah response is also guiedance from Allah.You did`nt gave up till now,this is guiedance from Allah.


Work hard to know the truth,Allah will reward you.


ask yourself why you deny the God existance,look around you,look to yourself,look to the universe.


look,think and ask yourself is it possible that there is no creator for this great universe?


Is it possible that there is no paramount power control this universe?


Continue your pray to the real God whom you do`nt know till now,continue your step towards the truth and you will get it.

[lifutushi]

how do you actually expecting the answer to come? are you thinking of something like out of nowhere a voice would come out and answer to your every question? if that's the case, there won't be a single non-believer in this world, because everybody can hear Allah's voice. so, what's the purpose of this life, then? aren't we here for a test of our faith?? how is the life is a test when everything should be spoonfed and shown by Allah, so that we can have some little faith in Him?


the signs are everywhere, look around you. the universe is speaking about the existence of the Mighty Allah. and there's the Holy Qur'an... the only book in the world that have an answer to every question on life. if you really read it you wuill understand what i'm talking about.


i was lost too... until one Ramadhaan many years ago, when i started to ask, and i have been answered (not verbally)... and now i'm getting answers for even the questions i'm going to ask tomorrow.


faith is beautiful, you won't understand it before you have it, and you won't see it before you believe in it....