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Jesus' miracles
#1

Bismillah:


"Did your Muhammad raise the dead or cause the blind to see????" this is a very common question asked by Non Muslims to prove that Muhammad was not true Prophet. Some Christians believe that since Jesus peace be upon him raised the dead, cured the blind, healed leprosy, and fed thousands with few loafs of bread, then this makes him <b>the Creator of the Universe</b>. It is important to know that <b>Jesus' miracles were not unique in the Bible.</b> <b> Others too did the same and similar miracles
.</b>


Also, it is important to know that <b>no Prophet could perform any type of Miracle without the Permission and Will of Allah Almighty:</b>


"It is not fitting for a man that God should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or by the sending of a <b>messenger to reveal, with God's permission, what God wills</b>: for He is Most High, Most Wise. (Quran, 42:51)"


Anyway, Let us look at the following verses from the Bible that refute the uniqueness of Jesus' Miracles:


<b>Bringing the dead back to life: </b>


"Then he cried out to the LORD , <b>"O LORD my God, have you brought tragedy also upon this widow I am staying with, by causing her son to die?" </b> Then he stretched himself out on the boy three times and cried to the LORD , "O LORD my God, let this boy's life return to him!" <b>The LORD heard Elijah's cry, and the boy's life returned to him,</b> and he lived. Elijah picked up the child and carried him down from the room into the house. He gave him to his mother and said, "Look, your son is alive!" ( 1 Kings 17:20-23)"


"But the child's mother said, "As surely as the LORD lives and as you live, I will not leave you." So he got up and followed her. Gehazi went on ahead and laid the staff on the boy's face, but there was no sound or response. So Gehazi went back to meet Elisha and told him, "The boy has not awakened." When Elisha reached the house,<b> there was the boy lying dead on his couch.</b> He went in, shut the door on the two of them and prayed to the LORD. Then he got on the bed and lay upon the boy, mouth to mouth, eyes to eyes, hands to hands. As he stretched himself out upon him, the boy's body grew warm. Elisha turned away and walked back and forth in the room and then got on the bed and stretched out upon him once more. <b>The boy sneezed seven times and opened his eyes. </b> Elisha summoned Gehazi and said, "Call the Shunammite." And he did. When she came, he said, "Take your son." (2 Kings 4:30-36)"


<b>Jesus' dead body never caused for any dead to come back to life, but Elisha's did:
</b>


"Elisha died and was buried. Now Moabite raiders used to enter the country every spring. Once while some Israelites were burying a man, suddenly they saw a band of raiders; so they threw the man's body into Elisha's tomb. <b>When the body touched Elisha's bones, the man came to life and stood up on his feet. </b> Hazael king of Aram oppressed Israel throughout the reign of Jehoahaz. (2 Kings 13:20-22)"


<b>Creating life:
</b>


Jesus only restored life, but never actually created one from scratch. Moses, however, did create a live snake from a wooden stick:


"Then the LORD said to him, "What is that in your hand?" "A staff," he replied. The LORD said, "Throw it on the ground." Moses threw it on the ground <b>and it became a snake</b>, and he ran from it. Then the LORD said to him, "Reach out your hand and take it by the tail." So Moses reached out and took hold of the snake and it turned back into a staff in his hand. ( Exodus 4:2-4)"


<b>Curing the blind:
</b>


"When the servant of the man of God got up and went out early the next morning, an army with horses and chariots had surrounded the city. "Oh, my lord, what shall we do?" the servant asked. "Don't be afraid," the prophet answered. "Those who are with us are more than those who are with them." And Elisha prayed, "O LORD , open his eyes so he may see." Then the LORD opened the servant's eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha. As the enemy came down toward him, <b>Elisha prayed to the LORD , "Strike these people with blindness." So he struck them with blindness, as Elisha had asked.</b> Elisha told them, "This is not the road and this is not the city. Follow me, and I will lead you to the man you are looking for." And he led them to Samaria. After they entered the city, <b>Elisha said, "LORD , open the eyes of these men so they can see." Then the LORD opened their eyes and they looked,</b> and there they were, inside Samaria. When the king of Israel saw them, he asked Elisha, "Shall I kill them, my father? Shall I kill them?" "Do not kill them," he answered. "Would you kill men you have captured with your own sword or bow? Set food and water before them so that they may eat and drink and then go back to their master." So he prepared a great feast for them, and after they had finished eating and drinking, he sent them away, and they returned to their master. So the bands from Aram stopped raiding Israel's territory. Some time later, Ben-Hadad king of Aram mobilized his entire army and marched up and laid siege to Samaria. (2 Kings 6:15-24)"


<b>Healing leprosy:
</b>


"Elisha sent a messenger to say to him, "Go, wash yourself seven times in the Jordan, and your flesh will be restored and you will be cleansed." But Naaman went away angry and said, "I thought that he would surely come out to me and stand and call on the name of the LORD his God, wave his hand over the spot and cure me of my leprosy. Are not Abana and Pharpar, the rivers of Damascus, better than any of the waters of Israel? Couldn't I wash in them and be cleansed?" So he turned and went off in a rage. Naaman's servants went to him and said, "My father, if the prophet had told you to do some great thing, would you not have done it? How much more, then, when he tells you, 'Wash and be cleansed'!" So he went down and dipped himself in the Jordan seven times, as the man of God had told him, <b>and his flesh was restored and became clean like that of a young boy</b>. (2 Kings 5:10-14)"


<b>Feeding hundreds with few loafs of bread:
</b>


"A man came from Baal Shalishah, bringing the man of God <b>twenty loaves of barley bread </b> baked from the first ripe grain, along with some heads of new grain. "Give it to the people to eat," Elisha said. <b> "How can I set this before a hundred men?"</b> his servant asked. But Elisha answered, "Give it to the people to eat. For this is what the LORD says: <b>'They will eat and have some left over.</b>' " Then he set it before them,<b> and they ate and had some left over</b>, according to the word of the LORD. (2 Kings 4:42-44)"


So as you can clearly see from the above verses, <b>Jesus' Miracles were not unique</b>. Therefore<b>, they can never be used to prove that he is the Creator of the Universe.
</b>


Salam


Wael.

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#2


A common mistake is attribute miracles to the person, when in fact its God, the man is either a supplicant or a the means through which God worked.




Quote:Elisha prayed to the LORD , "Strike these people with blindness." So he struck them with blindness, as Elisha had asked.

Elisha does not perform a miracle. He asks for one

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#3

Bismillah:




Quote:A common mistake is attribute miracles to the person, when in fact its God, the man is either a supplicant or a the means through which God worked.


Elisha does not perform a miracle. He asks for one

<b>EXACTLY arclight.. EVEN JESUS PRAYED TO GOD TO GRANT HIM MIRACLES.</b>


if you analyze the story of Lazarus, you will notice that he was very sick, his sisters Mary and Martha had made frantic calls for Jesus to come and cure his sickness but he arrived too late, actually four days after his demise.


Mary wails to Jesus that had he arrived in time, perhaps her brother would not have died; meaning that if he could heal other peoples' sicknesses, why would he not have healed her brother, a dear friend of his. Jesus says that <b>"even now if ye have faith, ye shall see the glory of god.</b>" The condition was that they should have faith. Didn't he say that faith could move mountains?


He asks to be taken to the tomb. On the way, <b>"he groaned in the spirit</b>". He was not mumbling; he was pouring out his heart and praying to God. But while he sobbed so bitterly his words were not audible enough for people around him to understand. Hence the words "he groaned". On reaching the grave, Jesus "groaned" again; perhaps, even more earnestly and God heard his groaning (his prayer), and Jesus received the assurance that God will fulfill his request. Now, Jesus could rest assured and command that the stone which was barring the tomb, be removed so that Lazarus could come back from the dead. Without that assurance from God, Jesus would have made a fool of himself.


Mary thinks of the stink because her brother had been dead for four days! But Jesus was <b>confident</b> and the stone was removed. Then he looked up towards heaven and said:


<b>"Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me."
</b> (John 11:41-42)


i cant believe anyone will say that Jesus raised the dead on his own after hearing thos supplication that he have made.


he know that these superstitious and credulous people will misunderstand the source of the miracle. They might take him for "God". Giving life to the dead is the prerogative of God alone. To make doubly sure, that his people do not misunderstand, <b>he speaks out loudly that the "groaning" was actually his crying to God Almighty for help. The prayer was incoherent as far as the bystanders could discern, but the Father in heaven had accepted his prayer, viz. "thou hast heard me".</b>


Furthermore, he says, <b>"thou hearest me always"</b>; in other words, <b>every miracle wrought by him was an answer by God Almighty to his prayer</b>. The Jews of his day understood the position well, and they<b> "glorified God", </b> as Matthew tells us of another occasion when the Jews exclaimed "for giving such power unto men" (Matt. 9:8).


In fact, Jesus gives his reason for speaking loudly. He says, "<b>that they may believe that thou has sent me." </b> One who is sent is a messenger, and if he be sent by God, then he is <b>a Messenger of God </b>


Alhamdulelah...


Salam


Wael

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#4

I agree that other Prophets performed miracles.


Where are the ones that Mohammed performed?

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#5

Bismillah


topic on miracles of Muhammad


http://islamsms.com/bb/index.php?showtopic=3573

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#6

Bismillah:




Quote:I agree that other Prophets performed miracles.


Where are the ones that Mohammed performed?

You have to agree that all these miracles were the work of God and not the prophets, even the miracles of Jesus were not his own as i proved in my earlier posts.


Salam


Wael.

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#7

Quote:Bismillah:


You have to agree that all these miracles were the work of God and not the prophets, even the miracles of Jesus were not his own as i proved in my earlier posts.


Salam


Wael.

Yes I agree that all the miracles done by Jesus were the work of God. ;)


Are the miracles done by Mohammed published in more than one original source?

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#8

Bismillah


Yes


Are the miracles of jesus?

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#9

Quote:Bismillah


Yes


Are the miracles of jesus?

The four gospels for starters.

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#10

Bismillah:




Quote:Yes I agree that all the miracles done by Jesus were the work of God. ;)

Alhamdulelah, good boy. this is very good step that you have taken. insha'Allah the next would be SHAHADAH.


by the way.


what was the first miracle of Jesus in the Bible?


Salam


Wael.

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