Do You Believe In Ufos?

[Rehmat]

Dr. Stephen Greer's book "Disclosure: Military and Government Witnesses Reveal the Greatest Secrets in Modern History." Says that he had been collecting video and written testimony from some 400 retired members of the US military, intelligence and aeronautics industry including Presidential advisors, generals, pilots and two astronauts many of whom had Top-Secret clearance – And he has overwhelming evidence is that every year we have thousands of visits from UFO's, which are tracked on radar at speeds ranging from 5000 to 20,000 mph. There are also thousands of signals reaching the earth from outer space.


According to his book - Over the last 60 years many UFO's have crashed or have been shot down by missiles or laser beams. The US has recovered these spaceships and replicated some of the technology. It has recovered aliens both dead and alive.


I do not know why these UFO witnesses are ridiculed or mass-media portray these incidents as fake and imagination, but if I had to guess, I'd venture it is controlled by Freemasonry through their Zionist network, which I understand is well represented in these areas.


What you think?

[alliex]

Assalam aliekum,


Rehmat this sounds like a very intresting topic. I don't mean to sound un educated but I just wanted to know what is the Zionist network. I see that you use it a lot in your post's.


Maybe when this question is answered maybe I could give you my thoughts on this.


But to my knowledge, what I think is that the USA lie constentally so it is hard to tell truth from fiction.


Also I may be worng here, so someone please correct me if I am wrong dosn't it say in the Qu'ran there is no one else in the universe except us??? I am not quiet sure on this one.


Wasalam

[lifutushi]

Assalamualaikum....


i'm not knowledgeable in this area as well. what Rehmat said did cross my mind sometimes but in the end it went to a halt. About the US government lying now and then, that's really true. but of course most government do lie after all, just not as big of a scale as the US government.


about the Qur'anc verses, i don't remember reading something like us being alone in this universe. guess i'll have to go back and read carefully again


but the UFOs doesn't have to be from the outer space, i think. i don't know, is there anuone who knows about this here?

[alliex]

Assalamu aliekum,


I heard that we where alone in the universe and the reference was the Qu'ran, so it is probably mis lead information.


I thought UFO are the spaseships of the aliens? Maybe it people just palying hoaxes. Who knows...


Alliex

[Peace in Ireland]

People, people. I think we all need to listen more closely to Rehmat. Mr. Fienstien, the guy who owns the newspaper stand on my street? He obviously controls the UFO's. So does Mr. Leibowitz from the Chinese food restaurant; it's crystal clear that he is in charge of all UFO activity. Jews, a tiny fraction of the world population, control everything because they are magic and can shoot lasers and have wings and stuff. Listen to Rehmat my friends, for his logic is flawless.

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


as salam alykom


I am afraid u all have to wait till Rehmat is back after 1 month I just suspended his account on the 7th


PII welcome back


u seem to have again overlooked my question on the thread of wonder woman


hold on let me dig what I wanted to tell u from another thread


http://www.islamsms.com/bb/index.php?s...opic=2496&st=15


look at my post on the 2nd page


I know the thread may not be on topic but I posted the same question for u and reepi long ago

[umm Zachariah]

Bismillah,


Peace PII,


Is this the answer to the question?

[Peace in Ireland]

Howdy Muslimah, sorry I didn't get back to you, I don't check this site as regularly as I should.


As best as I can decern, your question was "why do you defend Jews if Jews (according to Christians) killed Jesus?"


Ok, here I go. First of all, I do not believe Jesus was ressurected, let's just get that out of the way. He was probably the victim of grave robbers. Second, I defend Jews against anti-semites because you can't possibly hold Jews responsible for the murder of Jesus since back in the biblical days, there were no Christians or Muslims yet, only Jews as far as Abrahamic religions go. It's like if I go to Kenya and am killed by Kenyans in a bank robbery. There really isn't anyone else around to kill me, get my drift? Lastly, it is insane to hold Jews accoutable for the death of Jesus 2000 years after the fact. Do I hold modern, everyday English people responsible for the genocide carried out against the Irish? Of course not. Do I hold decendents of Moors accountable for the deaths of Italians? Certainly not. While it is certain that decendents of the conquering/dominant group still benefit from their ancestors oppresing actions (think Whites in America) it is irrational to actually hold a grudge or BLAME them for something that happened before they were born.


This is why I defend Jews. And while it may not seem like it (mostly because there is only anti-Jew diatribe on this message board and very little Jew-on-Muslim hatred) I defend Muslims just as strongly back here in the real world. After 9/11, I strongly opposed the detention of Muslims and Arabs in the U.S. for no good reason. I also oppose the U.S. Oil-Industrial Complex's abuse of Arab nations for profit as well at George W Bush's imperialist actions in the middle-east. I oppose most actions taken by the Israeli government as well. But the actions of power hungry politicians in Israel has zero effect on my opinions of the average Jew, whether it be a mason living in Israel or a lawyer living in Brooklyn. Just as I hold no Afghanis or Saudis responsible for the actions of the terrible Osama Bin Laden.


I hope that helps clear things up. Feel free to ask a follow up question if you want. Also, forgive my sarcasm to Rehmat, but sometimes it's just too tempting! ;-)

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


PII I respect your opinion much well explained now I understand fully, it has been always a question on my mind thank u so much.

[Shereen]

Salaam,


I do not have information about this issue with respect to Quran. However, I do wonder why most of the people from USA have 'seen' UFO's ?? and not the other people? It's strange.....does a UFO only prefer USA to land [img]style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif[/img][img]style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif[/img] ...i dunno !


I used to believe that there are aliens (e.g green bodied, big headed) from other planets, but not anymore. If there were, believe me, they would have made their presence very 'clear' [img]style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif[/img]


Do keep in mind that 'sightings' and 'witnesses' of UFOs were mostly from 60's-80's. May be this has something to do with a fasination with these beings? I rarely hear about UFO witnesses 'now'.