Through The Eyes Of A Muslim

[Rehmat]

That Sunday afternoon what he was discussing that day was a document which had been circulating amongst the various members of his church, downloaded off the internet in which was contained an outline for subduing the whole of humanity to a totalitarian system run by Islamic extremists. No doubt, the individual who had brought the document to church that day had originally retrieved it from Worldnetdaily, Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity or some other intellectual brothel that peddles the whorish agenda of Zionism for the benefit of Israel. As the elderly, conservative Christian man described this document which ran chills up and down his


spine, there wasn’t an ounce of doubt in his mind that it was genuine and that its contents portended the worst for the Christian West. He was visibly frightened at what he had read, as if he had been given the gift of prophecy and could see in a vision the nightmare that awaited him and his fellow Christians in the not too distant future. In this future, as he foresaw it, the Muslims would one day


seize political control of the Western world, come to dominate or at least manipulate its media and legal systems, and afterwards restrict or outlaw the precepts and practicing of the Christian faith.


Calming him down was of no use. Trying to make him understand that the religion of Islam is not inimical to Christianity in its central tenets was an exercise in


futility. Reading to him the treaties signed by Caliph Omar and the Christian leaders in Jerusalem and Damascus, centuries-old treaties which promised the Christians that they would be free to practice their religion without fear fell on deaf ears. Showing him passages of the Quran, wherein Christ is revered as the Messiah and wherein his blessed Mother is regarded as even more holy than even some Christians believe only made him angrier. Even for him, as a Catholic, pointing out the fact that in the Holy Land Muslims and Christians can be found side by side in processions honoring the saints in heaven and Christ’s mother meant nothing. It was of no use, he had made up his mind and didn’t want to be bothered with the details. In his world, Christianity was besieged by an enemy who was


encircling it minute by minute, and threatened by a fanaticism whose victories could be chronicled every day in what had become the constantly progressing destruction of Western Civilization. …….


http://www.themoderntribune.com/through_...f_a_muslim


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[honeycomb]

emm... i used to go to some forums, where the non-muslims just "attacked" islam, even though they don't understand it. it's so tiring to make them understand, because after another clarification, they'll just come up with another false statement -- so it's a vicious cycle. really, anybody can make up false statements, there could be millions of them,. when one falsies is put down, another arises... aiyooo...


i admit, i got angry couples of time.. so i just left them alone. i'm only human, so before i do something God will hate me, just leave them in their dream world is better, i think. plus it's also stated in the Quran -- just leave them if they don't want to believe, right?


anyway, i'm also irked when news reports use negatives words when describing muslims. in news of tsunami hit Banda Acheh, they engineeringly wrote.. <b>The Church of Scientology is applying its mind-over natter healing techniques to injured tsunami survivors in Aceh. Jews and Quakers are sending humanitarian aid. Radical Islamic groups are providing "spiritual guidance.".</b> - [source: Reuters]


I mean, what's with positively writing about the other religious workers, yet using the term "radical islamic groups" & hyphening "spiritual guidance", when depicting muslims. there are many muslim aid workers there, Malaysia is helping -- so is OIC. Mercy Malaysia is even the first to arrive there. but yet, they are "radical"? i feel really irked.


okay, i guess i'm so very, very irked, honestly.


Aceh is a very, very strong muslim province. they're very good, resilient people with strong Islamic faith. so it's very sensitive for me to have the media blatantly call these nice people "radical". the Acehnese take up the orphans & care for them as their own families, yet some would say it's "kidnapping". if people use such terms, i can say a mother cooking fish in the kitchen as, "knife-wielding mother heartlessly beheading an animal in the house". it's true but still, really -- but it's misleading.


but then i think, i shouldn't have so high expextations of these writers. just lower your expectations, & maybe we'll understand why writers write like these.

[Rehmat]

emm... i used to go to some forums, where the non-muslims just "attacked" islam, even though they don't understand it. it's so tiring to make them understand, because after another clarification, they'll just come up with another false statement ...

I know what you mean. I have been getting 'Talmudi garlands' from them on half-dozen Muslim websites for the last several years. But don't get fool by those professional Zionist hackers - they are hired by the Israeli-Mafia to distort Muslim image and hack any genuine Islamic discussion among the Muslim posters. Most of the time these Jews hackers hide behind Christian or Muslim IDs, but a knowledgeable Muslim can find out their true identity - judging by their ignorance of Islam and Christianity. The basic aim of these Jews hackers is to create a arguement with Muslim posters on Christianity - to create a diversion - that the CONFLICT is between Christians and Muslims - And that the criminal Jews or Israel has nothing to do the world troubles.


You can easily spot them on this Forum too!

...plus it's also stated in the Quran -- just leave them if they don't want to believe, right?

That's true, but believe me the Jews hacker (s) would not leave you in peace - especially, if you have been in the habit (like me) of exposing their lies about Palestine.

...anyway, i'm also irked when news reports use negatives words when describing muslims. in news of tsunami hit Banda Acheh...

I am not surprised. The US mass-media is controlled by the anti-Islam Jews, who will distort the facts and like 9/11 - blame every thing on Muslims.

Aceh is a very, very strong muslim province. they're very good, resilient people with strong Islamic faith. so it's very sensitive for me to have the media blatantly call these nice people "radical".....

I agree with you and suggest you should post more information about Islamic struggle going on in Aceh. But believe me, Aceh is not the only target - The criminal Zionists are behind most of the conflicts going on in Muslim countries, such as Sudan and Nigeria.


Wa Salaam.

[Anyabwile]

anyway, i'm also irked when news reports use negatives words when describing muslims. in news of tsunami hit Banda Acheh, they engineeringly wrote.. <b>The Church of Scientology is applying its mind-over natter healing techniques to injured tsunami survivors in Aceh. Jews and Quakers are sending humanitarian aid. Radical Islamic groups are providing "spiritual guidance.".</b> - [source: Reuters]
I mean, what's with positively writing about the other religious workers, yet using the term "radical islamic groups" & hyphening "spiritual guidance", when depicting muslims. there are many muslim aid workers there, Malaysia is helping -- so is OIC. Mercy Malaysia is even the first to arrive there. but yet, they are "radical"? i feel really irked.

Bismillah...


It's one of the things that interested me most about Islam, another revert said this to me a while back as well. If you come to Islam from a fresh background and ask about it with non Muslims, or search the net especially, you will find a ton of anti Islamic specific sites, or documents or articles. Or hear a bunch of negative comments, highly irrational in most cases. This is simply fact. You see some the other way around of course but the number cannot even be compared. And this fear of islam is amongst the things that made me curious about the religion, why is everyone scared of it, when Islam has teaching to respect Christ etc, and is even predicted in their own scriptures. Much leeway and accomidation on the part of one religion (Islam) but nothing coming the other way at all it would seem.


Then once you look deep it becomes obvious it's based around fear of the truth. The more news reports / articles like the one you quoted you see the more you realise. Those who have looked into Islam will know for themselves if what the Christians etc are saying about it in huuuge numbers is true. And when you see it isn't, this is where the fear and blatantly unfair and quite bizarre worldwide attacks on the religion of Islam come from. Be it Internet, TV, Newspapers etc. It is the truth..and that can be seen by anyone who looks into it with an open heart, and even those with overflowing Christian bias, thus constant attacks from Christians instead of them just concentrating on their own religion and three Gods (who is one God) a concept of which the man they worship had no idea about anyway. It's not stable enough to stand unless it has Islam to lean on to poke fun at. Fear of the truth, the truth man has recognised since the first day he walked the earth....Submission To God. It actually makes me quite happy sometimes.


Anyone can see the truth in Islam, no matter who they are, what religion and where they are from. It's blatantly simple, it's just letting go of whatever it is that's holding you back from admitting it. That's the tough part i imagine, and that's where the source of hate comes from we receive from every angle. This is why after a very brief period of posting on Christian websites and forums asking questions and seeing the responses, looking into them and seeing no truth there, only fabricated lies or adjusted verses out of context etc. I lost interest going to other religions boards because the truth just kept standing there in front of me, this is why i simply stay here, and don't spend my days sitting on Christian forum asking questions everyday, or posting offensive comments as if i am most unsure or uncomfortable with <b>something</b> in my religion. I can only talk for myself but there's just no need to do this once you know the truth. Ask questions sure but dedicate time everyday posting on a non Islamic forum...no point, i've found the path, not looking anymore.


I found it most strange as to why a religion would do this if they are confident theirs is the truth, why lie? Every Christian, Jew or non muslim who goes overboard attacking Islam is simply because they fear the truth and know they could die any minute, but cannot seem to let go without great struggle. The ones who don't go over board attacking it but are simply curious and ask questions without poking fun etc...eventually, revert back to mans natural religion. Submission To God. Al-hamdu lillahi rabbil 'alamin I found Islam.


Assalamu Alalikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh

[Rehmat]

I found it most strange as to why a religion would do this if they are confident theirs is the truth, why lie? Every Christian, Jew or non muslim who goes overboard attacking Islam is simply because they fear the truth and know they could die any minute, but cannot seem to let go without great struggle. The ones who don't go over board attacking it but are simply curious and ask questions without poking fun etc...eventually, revert back to mans natural religion. Submission To God.

Asslam-o-Aliakum


There is nothing strange about West's hostility towards Islam. It is a natural phenomenon - The inferior corrupt civilizations and man-made dogmas - always fear the superior and moral civilizations. As Dr. Murad Hoffman, former Director of Information for NATO says: "Westerns are born with hatred towrds Islam and Muslims".


The Judo-Christians are so full of "Islamophobia" that they are sacred to allow Muslims to have dialogue with them on their websites - while they're given free acess to Muslim websites - to abuse Islam and Muslims by posting lies and hateful material.


Yes, I agree that we should response politely to the genuine non-Muslims who ask questions to learn about Islam - but I have no 'soft heart' for Israeli propagandist who are found on most of Muslim websites to pollute them with hacking tactics.


Wa Salaam.

[ronniv93]

"Westerns are born with hatred towrds Islam and Muslims".

Funny. I feel it's just the other way around. I would say, "Muslims are fed and taught hatred towards the West and Christians."


Guess we all have our different perspectives.

[Anyabwile]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="2442" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> "Westerns are born with hatred towrds Islam and Muslims".

Funny. I feel it's just the other way around. I would say, "Muslims are fed and taught hatred towards the West and Christians."


Guess we all have our different perspectives.

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Would you really say Muslims are fed and taught hatred toward the west and Christians? I'm not...or am i a <b>one off</b>. And who is supposed to be feeding me this? Honestly Ronni don't be ridiculous, has someone hijacked your account here because you've been coming out with some real loopy statements the past few days. I wouldn't even agree that westerners are born with hatred toward Islam and Muslims. A lot of them have it but i wouldnt agree they are born or fed and taught it, not to the degree Rehmat possibly thinks.


So as i was saying, how am i fed and taught hatred toward the west and Christians? It's not in the Qur'an you can see for your self, it's certainly not at my Mosque, those guys are softer than pillows Wouldn't think of saying a bad word against anyone. It even frustrates me at times . I just put them down to being <b>even more </b>confident in their religion and thus see no need to speak about anyone, even more confident than me no doubt, but i am getting to the stage they are at these days anyway. So anyway who is feeding me this? Please tell.

[Rehmat]

Funny.  I feel it's just the other way around.  I would say, "Muslims are fed and taught hatred towards the West and Christians."
Guess we all have our different perspectives.

Funny, some idiots never stop droping hammer on their little toes


Who is afraid to tell this truth to the next generation?


In 1925, Germany's 500,000 Jews were overwhelmingly indifferent or actively hostile to Zionism. The German Zionist movement had only 9000 members.


The "Central Union of Germans of the Jewish Faith " represented most German Jews and favored active participation in German life. Its main focus was combating anti-Semitism.


Zionists, on the other hand, welcomed the Nazis' anti Semitic policies. Like the Nazis, they believed in race-based national character and destiny. Like the Nazis, they believed Jews had no future in Germany.


The Zionists did not protest Nazi persecution such as the removal of 2000 Jewish scholars and scientists from German universities in 1933. The Nazis rewarded this "restraint" by allowing the Zionists to go about their work unhindered. All other Jewish and anti fascist organizations were disbanded and their leaders imprisoned.


The Nazis required all Jews to join the Zionist-led "Reich Union" whose goal was emigration. Jews were to be converted to Zionism at any cost. The Zionists were able to publish books and newspapers critical of the Nazis so long as the audience was restricted to Jews.


The cooperation extended to political and economic spheres. Adolph Eichmann set up agricultural training camps in Austria to prepare young Jews for Kibbutz life. He visited Palestine and conferred with Zionist leaders who confessed their true expansionist goals. There was even talk of a strategic alliance between Nazi Germany and Jewish Palestine. His report is in Himmler's Archives.


For more on Zionist-Nazi cooperation, see online Lenni Brenner "Zionism in the Age of Dictators"


http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/


The cooperation may have extended to the Jewish Holocaust and explain why most Jews passively accepted their fate. In his book, "The Holocaust Victims Accuse" Rabbi Moshe Shonfeld claims that Zionist- led Jewish Councils ("Judenrats") collaborated with the Nazis and deceived non Zionist Jews.


Europe's non-Zionist Jews were worth more dead than alive to Zionists and their financial sponsors. The Holocaust provided a political and moral rationale for the establishment of the Jewish state.

[laian]

Funny. I feel it's just the other way around. I would say, "Muslims are fed and taught hatred towards the West and Christians."
Guess we all have our different perspectives.

I really don't know much about this at all, since not being raised Muslim I don't know how or what Muslims are taught.


But I will say ronni's impression is not far off the mark, although I wouldn't say Muslims are fed and taught <b>hatred</b> towards the west and Christians, however in muslim countries I think they view america as embodying lots of what Islam is against, such as fornication (hence the infamous "infidel"), money, as in collecting interest, and just all around bad morals.


That would be more directed to the west, not necessarily to Christians, since Christians have some of the same values as far as I am aware. It just so happens that america is a majority of Christians, so that kind of sticks with them. Just like terrorism sticks with Muslims.


Also, in underdeveloped countries I think they view america as abusing their power, because america does have so much power and wealth, and like it or not most americans are kind of arrogant about that.


Just my view, like I said I don't know what's really going on... but definitely it is a cultural thing that people are taught, as far as learning the religion, we are taught to have nothing but respect for the people of the book, i.e. Jews and Christians. As I've said before in a different thread, the Qur'an says that Christians are the closest to Muslims out of all the religions on the earth.

[Muslimah]

The basic aim of these Jooooz hackers is to create a arguement with Muslim posters on Christianity - to create a diversion - that the CONFLICT is between Christians and Muslims - And that the criminal Jooooz or Israel has nothing to do the world troubles.
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Bismillah


as salam alykom


and what u ve been doing rehmat since u joined? posting from the Injeel more than Quran. Turning the board into a chrisitanity teaching one.


for the last time I will ask u not to post from the injeel, just keep busy with Islam not yourself and your past experiences.