Thought on hadeeth

[Dan]

Bismillah


As Salam alaikum


My brother and I were discussing this very subject earlier. The way that I see it is that the bible is like the qur'an and the sunnah meshed into one text. The only problem is that it makes it difficult to pick out which is which. It is hard to tell what God said, which should in theory not be allowed to be altered, and from the parts where man could insert or delete what they wanted. It is almost like a puzzle sometimes. Yet the qur'an for muslims is all Allah's Words directly and unchangable. For the aspect which men could change, Alhamdulillah, that Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud, and other ahadith collectors formulated a systematic way in order to divulge the most accurate hadith from the prophet. On a side note, I find it interesting that even the hadith which are proven to be fabricated where still retained but just marked as fabricated. To me it is very reassuring in the accuracy of the sunnah. I could ask to see why a certain hadith was deemed weak and the methodology would be laid out for me in a chain of narrators who are judged on character. On an even further side note, I was a little put off when I first converted because this was the criterea and it seemed a little arbitrary. But the more I get to know Islam the more I come to realize that a person cannot fake the type of character one develops when one is walking unshakenly along the straight path. Insha'Allah I will become like this one day. I am going to shut up now.


As Salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu

[Anyabwile]

I was a little put off when I first converted because this was the criterea and it seemed a little arbitrary. But the more I get to know Islam the more I come to realize that a person cannot fake the type of character one develops when one is walking unshakenly along the straight path. Insha'Allah I will become like this one day. I am going to shut up now.
As Salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu

Nope don't shut up, keep going. How you've explained the Hadith is perfect, like my understanding as well. At first i didn't know to what degree what is fabricated and why we even listen to Hadith that scholars say are weak. But a brother was telling me about a complete course available to study in just <b>the Science of Hadith alone!</b> It is Allhumdullilah very in depth and very rigorous. Allah (Subhanahu wa ta'ala) would not have seen events play out any other way regarding this, this is why if a Hadith is said to be authentic, i trust in Allah (Subhanahu wa ta'ala) .

[Muslimah]

Anya check this:


http://www.islamsms.com/bb/index.php?showtopic=1842

[Rehmat]

My brother and I were discussing this very subject earlier.  The way that I see it is that the bible is like the qur'an and the sunnah meshed into one text.  The only problem is that it makes it difficult to pick out which is which. 

Asslam-o-Aliakum


I am afraid that's totally wrong understanding of Bible, Holy Qur'an and the Prophet's (pbuh) Sunnah.


First of all - Holy Qur'an is 100% Word of God - While Bible is corrupted 'from head to toe' by human writings - mostly Jews. Holy Qur'an was memorized and written down during the life of the Prophet (pbuh) - While the Bible was written, in parts, between 80 to 200 years after the dis-appearance of the Master.


Second- The Prophet's Sunnah is spread over 23 years of his Divine message - covering every aspect of human-life - While Jesus' divine life was were short - less than three years - And even that was spent in 'removing' the corruption in the original Divine message revealed to Moses (as).


If anyone really like to fid historical grounds between Bible and anything Islamic - That would be Hadith, which were collected and put in current form during 150-300 years after the Prophet (pbuh) - But even that would not do justice to the commonalities. Because, while the Sahih Hadith traces every narrator to the Companions, the four Gospels are based on the 'motto of probably'.


And finally, most of Muslims don't know that in Christianity, the Pope and other 'Inspired' people are given the task of 'addition, sub-traction, and deletion' of the so-called 'divine message' in the Bible - Which has been carried very faithfully for the last 2000 years. That why one find so many kind of Bible and so many 'R.V (Revised Version)'.


Wa Salaam.