Role of married couples In Islam

[Muslimah]

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u mean he prounced talaq (divorve) because she went back home, although originally he agreed on that??


If this is the case, then he can not divorce because he already agreed on that. For marriage is based on fulfilling the contract conditions. But if he divorced her for something else. Let us know exactly.


Plus as far as I know wallahu a`alem, I think taking her back thru the phone is not acceptable.


I was put in a similar situation with a sister here in Egypt when the husband took her back on the phone, we checked with a scholar who said. It can be fine but he has to come and sort of have a relation with her in few days.


So just give us more details.

[sallly loves islam]

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Sister he pronounce the talaq tru cellphone and then the wife called and then she asked him if that is true he said yes...and after two weeks the husband asked the wife to call her again...then he said to his wife that they are husband and wife again.....He gave her wife the time to finish evrything and if she finish all. she have to come back to her husband and stay there and not to go back again to her place.Its been almost three months since the wedding but the only means of their communication is only thru phone after the four days they were together, beside sister the wife is virgin when she got married.


Now she asked the wife if she can go back and be with her he gave a date.the wife said i cannot promise that i cannot be with you on that date,he asked him to give an extension,but the husband pronounce talq again thru phone.


now sister my question is this is the divorce valid? since its only thru cellphone?


he allowed his wife to travel alone without maharam.now when the wife cannot fulfill the date they agreed he divorce his wife.corect me if iam wong sister for me its unfair to divorce his wife, why he not go to her wife place to see for himself wht is the really situation of her wife.it only 1 and half hour travel by plane.


the wife said it doesnt mean that she will not fullfill all the condition,unfortunately circumtances occure its beyond her control,


For me sister Islam is liberating you cannot fulfill the conditions now,then do it later when you can fulfill it.


To my surprise sister her husband is an Alim.he graduated from madina. i aked the wife what is the real reason


her husband has a 1 wife and she is the second wife,one of the reasons that her husband divorce her is that......many people asking her where is your second wife?


why you allowed her to go back to manila?Your known as a strick to your first wife?


Iam still on process of digging the real reason.But for me sister if that is case her husband is unfair correct me if iam wrong please.It just 1 and half travel to be in with his wife, his reason is that...the condition is to left manila and be with him in his place, as the wife said he is not turning her back to whtever the condition is.she is much willing to be with her husband...

[Dan]

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Just because the brother graduated from Medina does not necessarily mean that he is practicing the religion that it should be practiced. Remember that there will be people who are punished in Jahanam because they had religious knowledge but did not apply it.


I think this man is being very unreasonable with his new wife. He knew that she had circumstances that she needed to take care of before being with him. Now he is having a fit because of what OTHER people think? Did not this type of thinking cause the Prophet much stress when his wife Ayesha was lost in the desert and a companion found her? After they arrived back in Medina, people started a bunch of rumors. They got back to the Prophet who originally had no problem with the circumstances under which his wife was found. As people whispered though, he started to get upset.


What business is it of these other people where the brother's wife is? It isn't. It is a stipulation that was laid out in the marriage contract and he is fulfilling it. At least, this should be his perspective. Instead he is letting petty garbage get in the way of his rational and compassionate thinking. I know that many muslim men have a problem with having to control the women in their lives. This is not Islam and not the way of the Prophet. Maybe Allah is trying to let this sister get out of this marriage (virginity still intact) while revealing what type of husband she should look for. Mash'Allah, the brother has knowledge but I would gladly have a nice, understanding, dumb wife than a knowledgable, callous wife. I have found that knowledge can always be learned but a good character is so rare and precious that it should be valued for what it is worth.


Insha'Allah my rantings conveyed some type of coherant thought. If it did, it is from Allah Alone.


As Salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu

[radiyah]

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Masha'Allah brother Dan u r so right, a true muslim would not do this to his wife, and he allowed her to travel in the first place without mahram, and marriage is not a game, so he will utter the word talaq 2 times over the phone because others fused him against her. , may Allah guide us to what is right and forgive us for any mistakes of our own nafs.


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[sallly loves islam]

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Bro and sisters.during the 4 days of being together the marriage is consumated.


Well we have to be prudent sisters in choosing a man to be our partners in life,when i was a catholic nun i put priest in a pedestal.i thougth they were angels and saints but they are all humans subject to sins and to commit mistakes,likewise with us we tried our very best to become as good as Allah(swt) wants us to be,but oftentimes we failed.


But i want spell it out the husband is selfish iam sorry for the term.He is an Alim but he dont know what is wrong and rigth he wanted to obey his mother who told her that if take her back his wife,dont ever ever call her mother again.it just becouse the wife cannot fulfill what ever the conditons of the marriage but it doesnt mean forever.He is living of what other people is saying,


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Dan u call this ranting? Sobhan Allah, then what is sensible.


But I think Sally was looking for sort of fatwa, am I not correct Sally.


Now the marriage is consumated, based on a condition he stipulated in the contract. Rasul Allah said in a hadeeth what means that we must fulfill convenants and the most worthy convenant of fulfilling is those thru which intercourse became ligitimate.


The husband is of course is at fault wallahu a`alam but to say that divorce is invalid I will check Insh a Allah with someone. I think u need to get back to the sister. But I agree with Dan that she has to think twice before going with him. Marriage and divorce is not a game to play with. One must be responsible and if u dont have a responsible man then what kind of family u expect.


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[sallly loves islam]

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your rigth sis muslima.........

[Muslimah]

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as salam alykom Sally


I am still trying to ask someone for such issues are critical and must be taken to a trustworthy scholar Insh aAllah

[Muslimah]

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as salam alykom Sally


ok here u go


The reply I got is the divorce is valid regardless he broke a condition. Taking her back on the phone is valid too if it was during her Edaa (waiting period). If it was after that then they need to make a new contract.


wallahu a`lam

[sallly loves islam]

assalamo alikum


jazakillahukhairan ya okthy....


Yes sister i just advise the sister to think and make more to dua to Allah.Her husband is communicating with her now and he wanted her back.....last dec.15 the husband send her divorce letter.the husband wrote "iam sorry i cannot give all your wants,and you cannot obey me.The sentiments of the wife is that i never asked him anything not even single centavo.even when they got married the wife never asked anything for mahar only few verses from our HOLY QURAN and she asked her husband not to allow her to be out Islam and help her to gain knowledge in religion thats the only mahar she asked.


so sister dec 15 the husband send her letter of divorce letter for the second talaq, is it halal for the husband to take her back? becouse after that dec 15 the husband send her a messages through cellphone and he wanted her back and he called her "my wife"


May Allah guide us all........


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