Quote: Using the same logic, then you should have no problem with Christians, Jews, Hindus etc storming Saudie Arabia, Iran etc to spread their faiths ?
well back to the old drawing board, same questions but from a different angle
Quote:I am more interested in the (honest) history of islam but it is obvious I will not find it here because the people on here are either ignorant of the history or are in denial. I detect more of the latter.
Ok, you're interested in the honest history of Islam, you say you won't find it here because the people here are ignorant of that history or in denial. Right...so i repeat, you say you <b>will not find it here</b>...no need to continue posting or hanging around then right?
But will you still return to this very board, continuous, in a manner that's almost frighteningly obsessive for someone who doesn't approve of or agree with Islam and religion? Yes.
You're a strange one. Do you actually know what you're doing?
Quote: <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="JohnDoe" data-cite="JohnDoe" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="1919" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am more interested in the (honest) history of islam but it is obvious I will not find it here because the people on here are either ignorant of the history or are in denial. I detect more of the latter.
Ok, you're interested in the honest history of Islam, you say you won't find it here because the people here are ignorant of that history or in denial. Right...so i repeat, you say you <b>will not find it here</b>...no need to continue posting or hanging around then right?
But will you still return to this very board, continuous, in a manner that's almost frighteningly obsessive for someone who doesn't approve of or agree with Islam and religion? Yes.
You're a strange one. Do you actually know what you're doing?
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you should read the history first before giving any comment on this.
I have
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okay, why don't you post your 'honest' story that you read, here!!
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1. Islam means peace.
*snigger*
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that's in Arabic (Islam = Peace).. stop being a fool by commenting on something you don't know...
Quote:Islam was spread to spread the authority of mohammad and his arab cohorts. I see no difference in the spread of arab imperialism to that of european imperialism.
any historical example?
Quote:Using the same logic, then you should have no problem with Christians, Jews, Hindus etc storming Saudie Arabia, Iran etc to spread their faiths ?
there are Christians, Jews etc in Saudi Arabia.... nobody stops them from preaching there....
Quote:To say that islam is a religion (of peace), is a bit like saying that the nazi party is a trade workers union. I am more interested in the (honest) history of islam but it is obvious I will not find it here because the people on here are either ignorant of the history or are in denial. I detect more of the latter.
ignorant of the history? give us your version of 'history' then we'll discuss it here...
that's in Arabic (Islam = Peace).. stop being a fool by commenting on something you don't know...
there are Christians, Jews etc in Saudi Arabia.... nobody stops them from preaching there....
as salam alykom
Just slight corrections on the language
Islam means to submit to Allah Lifutishi, it is derived from yaslum but another derivative of the verb is salam which is peace. So it bears in its sense the peace part. But the word Islam is to submit
Also about the Christians and jews being in Saudi Arabia. I know that there are many Christians work in Saudi Arabia for foreign companies. But I am not sure about Jews (not sure if American jews are hired there)?? Remember that Saudi Arabia does not have diplomatic ties with Isreal, unlike Egypt and a number of other Arab states. Jews status is different. But they work here in Egypt.
Quote:Just slight corrections on the language
Islam means to submit to Allah Lifutishi, it is derived from yaslum but another derivative of the verb is salam which is peace. So it bears in its sense the peace part. But the word Islam is to submit
Thank You...
i was just putting what i learned from my father (he knows arabic, i don't). he told me that 'salaam = peace', and it is one of the many meanings of Islam. but i also remeber he told me (years ago) about 'submission' as the main menaing of Islam.