One American's View.

[Shereen]

I would say more foolishly than bravely, anyway,

lolz....u see that seprates you from us !



because we are prapared to give our lives for our land & country......but the West subhan allah is so scared of death that they will run away leaving their families and everything, JUST to save their lives.


You see there's a great difference between someone having a great imaan & someone with a weak one


Need i say anything more?


inna lillahi waiina elihi jaioon........for that lady who died trying to defend her home.

[Megadeth]

To ISLAM ENLIGHTMENT - You missed one major fact that I said in my piece. As I mentioned before if you don't have the military OR the allies to help you defend your land your pretty much screwed. Your talking about the way things should be. I'm not arguing the way I think things should be. I'm saying the way things are.


You don't need to tell me about Britian and France declaring war on Germany because that is a historical event that proves my point. Poland had an army, that wasn't strong enough to defend itself, France couldn't do anything either and Britian was nearly knocked out as well.


Saeed - Not a Dream Theater fan. More Def Leppard, Ratt, 80's metal. Haven't really listened to DT much. Radio with Pull Me Under was overkill so I got sick of that song.

[islam_enlightment]

to megadeth, I see, so now it is a matter of survival of the strongest? Or that its not the survival of the strongest, just Israel gets to do what it wants? Ever hear of the U.N? They are suppose to "stop" aggresions, but they dont seem too helpful by just telling Israel empty threats. Ok since you mentioned we lost it, would you agree if there was another arab-israeli war?


John Doe, yesterday u were 24, i recal u were almost 10 years of happy marriage. So you got married at an age of 15? Thats against the law, you should be improsined.

[islam_enlightment]

I guess ur not going to jail afterall lol , anyway if someone is underage marriage, what is the penalty in america?

[islam_enlightment]

ok, wats the law in your state? and another question, what types of methods do the us use as death sentences today?

[Megadeth]

To Islam Enlightment


Yes. It is survival of the strongest. I'm not saying Israel should get to do what it wants. That's not my point. If the shoe was on the other foot I somehow doubt there would be a bunch of Muslims marching in the streets for Israel to be able to have it's land back or any Muslim willing to give up their land becuase it was the right thing to do.


I don't agree with Israel's tactics or Muslims preaching Jihad. Here's a tip. Maybe you're both wrong. But again my main pont wasn't about right and wrong its about what is. The fact is that Israel has control of that land and you've decided killing people who can't change that in order to get what you want. That is wrong. I think you're both wrong on a lot of things. Not everything, but a lot of things.


More political pressure would be put on someone like Bush if terrorist weren't out there killing innocent people. These fanatics make him look good. They're to stupid to know it, but everytime they cut a head off, blow up a bus, or take down a plane they make Bush's thinking seem logical.


I think you meant to say would I thnk its ok if there was another Arab - Israeli war.


Thanks for asking this because it makes my point. I couldn't do a dam thing about it if there was. I wouldn't like it. I don't want to see anyone killing anyone else. What I want and what happen are usually two different things. If there was a war and the Arabs could defeat Israel and hold onto it then what could anyone do? The land would be theirs. Then they could make all the arguments you make right now except judging from some of your fellow "believers" you'd kill them all women and children included because some of you don't think they have the right to exist.

[Saeed]

If there was a war and the Arabs could defeat Israel and hold onto it then what could anyone do? The land would be theirs.

Hmm.... I like the way you think.


1. Arabs would never win a war against Israel cause America wouldnt allow that.


2. Israel would probably nuke the whole place rather than letting Palestinians kick them out.


3. If thats the case then why are we bothered with Israel since the land they seized is theirs now, afterall they did win the war?

[SisterJennifer]

Arabs would never win a war against Israel cause America wouldnt allow that.

The Arabs could win a war against Israel if Allah allows that.

[Megadeth]

Hmm.... I like the way you think.


1. Arabs would never win a war against Israel cause America wouldnt allow that.


2. Israel would probably nuke the whole place rather than letting Palestinians kick them out.


3. If thats the case then why are we bothered with Israel since the land they seized is theirs now, afterall they did win the war?


Well Saeed. I didn't say Arabs would never win a war against Israel because America wouldn't allow that, but you're probably right. Though every act of terrorism seems to do one of two things scare people into submission (Spain) or just make you even more determined and willing to fight (United States).


2. You're probably right on that one.


3. Well I understand fighting for something. I just think there are different ways to fight for things. Martin Luther King, a black American, taught peace as a means to an end. He won. Jesus Christ taught peace as means to an end. He became even more popular in death than when he was alive and Rome became a Christian state. Ghandi, Nelson Mandella,....more examples of peace winning out.


I just don't think killing innocent civilians is the way to go. You got a problem with Bush and his military then fight the military. Purposely killing innocent people to reach your goal...get in the cowards line.

[Megadeth]

SisterJennifer - Well if it's up to Allah then let Allah be the one to decide who lives and dies. Stop killing in the name of. Unless every Muslim got a visit from Allah last night and he told them to do his killing for him then stop killing innocent people.


Remember this...no 9/11....no Americans in Iraq or Afghanistan. Osama gave Bush the excuse he needed.