Anti-sunnah...wake Up!!!!

[Lightuponlight]

Peace,

"If you dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and to the Messengers" 4:59

Referring to Allah and the Messenger both mean ONE THIGN- the quran. The messenger was God's spokesman. HIS words are in the quran. The questions that he was asked and the answers that were inspired to him are RECORDED in the quran


They ask you about intoxicants and gambling?. <i><b>Say</b></i>: 'in them is great sin, and befit for the people; but their sin is greater than their benefit'..." 2:219


“And they ask you about the Spirit?. <i><b>Say</b></i>:' the Spirit is one of my Lord's commands, and the knowledge you were originally given was very little' 17:85

"The answer of the believers, when summoned to Allah and to His Messenger, in order that he may judge between them is no other than this: They say: We hear and we obey."
24:51


"But no, by thy Lord, they can have on faith, until they make thee judge in all dispute between them, and find in their souls no resistance against they decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction."


4:65

Muhammad was ORDERED to judge by the quran ONLY


We have revealed to you the Scripture with truth that <i><b>you may judge between the people by that which God Has shown you</b></i>, and do not be an advocate for the treacherous. 4:105


HE HAD to judge by GODS SCRIPTURE ONLY, NOT PERSONALLY


“We ordained therein for them (Jews): "Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And WHOEVER <i><b>DOES NOT JUDGE BY WHAT ALLAH REVEALED, THOSE ARE THE ZALIMOON/OPPRESSORS</b></i>”.5-45


“Let the people of the Injeel (Christians) JUDGE BY WHAT ALLAH HAS REVEALED therein. And <i><b>WHOEVER DOES NOT JUDGE BY WHAT ALLAH REVEALED, THOSE ARE THE FASIQOON/REBELLIOUS</b></i>” 5:47


“And We Revealed to you (Muhammad) The-Book with the truth, confirming of The-Book before it, and superseding it. So (Muhammad) JUDGE <i><b>BETWEEN THEM BY WHAT ALLAH REVEALED, </b></i>and don't follow their vanity, diverging you away from the truth which hath come to you. For each We have appointed a SHARIAH and a way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one Ummah, but it is that He might try you in what He gave you; therefore VIEW WITH ONE ANOTHER IN VIRTUOUSNESS; to Allah do you all return, SO HE WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT IN WHICH YOU DIFFERED”;5:48


The quran is the law (5-48), and Muhammad judged by the quran ONLY. Those who do NOT judge by God's revelations are called Kafirun, Fasiqun and Zalimun by The God, and....Muhammad was not amongst any of them.

[Qutuz]

Peace,


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Referring to Allah and the Messenger both mean ONE THIGN- the quran. The messenger was God's spokesman. HIS words are in the quran. The questions that he was asked and the answers that were inspired to him are RECORDED in the quran

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make sense!!!!......Allah commands means "Quran" <b>AND</b> the messenger command must mean another source......what is <b>AND</b> doing anyway??


how do you say that the messenger commands is the Quran?? make sense!!!!

[Muslimah]

Muslimah
Why are you editing/censoring my posts? I asked nothing that violated any of your forum rules or regulations so why are you editing my posts? If you don't want to answer perhaps someone else does.


So on what grounds was my post censored?


Btw, please don't inject some attacking tone nonsense, because I'm not attacking anyone, so please don't lie on me.

I am deleting your repeated posts because u r flooding the board. If u post something different fine, but u r flooding the board with the same standard posts.


Im not injecting anything, just re read your and Lul posts and look at the tone.


la hawla wala qowa ta ila billah


and of course I am not the only one here. but for some strange reasons u addressed the thread to me, I wonder why???????

[Lightuponlight]

Peace,


Muslimah, did iconoclast get banned?

[Muslimah]

No he is not banned, he is just disabled from posting, he can access but not post as I warned him several times not to flood with repeated posts. Hope u r not missing him much. sorry for that

[radiyah]

Alsalam 'alaykom

Qutuz u r right, we are not supposed to post such links, we must not promote them, sorry I will just delet the link leaving the article itself.

Sorry for that, I guess sister Muslimah is more wiser in such issues.


Wasalam

[Lightuponlight]

Muslimah is not wise. Neither are you, are qutuz, or any other fool here who didn't even have the guts to respond to Iconoclast's questions. I hope that you guys don't understand what we're trying to convey to you. You guys are mushrik, and should anticipate the wrath of The God.


Calling upon and invoking the dead, bowing and prostrating to a stone idol (which was made out of mountain rocks) in mecca, kissing the walls of the idol, circumambulating it, touching the stone embedded therein, and throwing stones (and somtimes slippers) at other man made structures, drinking 'holy water'. That is what I call the pathetic, perverted, PAGANISTIC PRIDE, a sin maintained till death even, how is it possible to even ascribe these idiosyncracies to the LORD of the universe? You don't follow Islam. What the hell do you think hanafis/hanbalis/shafiss/jafaris/islamities all are? They are nothing but subsects of the two bifurcated cults of the Arab religion, sunnism and shiaismwhich has nothing to do with Islam as per the Quran. The Arab religion revolves larely around the stone idol in Mecca and its' environs.


I guess everything is possible in Mecca and Madina. Mountain rocks can become holy, seawater can become sacred. Actually, Mecca and Madina are the two largest idol worshipping cities in the world.


The arabs have truly fooled people into coming to their soil to put on two piece togas and run around in circles around a cube. You call that ISLAM? It is nothing but idol worship and paganism. For God's sake, REFLECT and REVERT.


The Arabs have reinstated the religion of their forefathers.


May you mushriks look forward to hell for your repulsive beliefs.


La salam.

[Qutuz]

hmmm...restoring to bad mouthing!?


anyway its as i expected....anti-sunnah crew doesn't believe in sunnah nor Quran.


they just use distorted interpertion of Quranic verses to attack Islam or to produce a distorted version of Islam which will leave them greater space to commit all the sins they can dream of....we watched lightuponlight assuring us that the clear order of chopping the theif hand in Quran (not sunnah) doesn't mean chopping the thiefs hands ( ) and i believe that the anti-sunnah have some cool interpertions for the verses which illgilize adultery & alcohol.....its just a few final touches away from having a perfect Muslim society where a Muslim start his day with a glass of wine and end it sleeping in a brothel..a soceity where theifs are sent to jail where all criminals meet to share exprince and learn techniques and even turn to be homosexuals....gotta be a pious society.


< drinking tea >


what was i saying?? aah...distorted interpertion..now i remember.....for them "the fully detailed book" mean literaly "fully detailed book" while "obey the prophet" mean "never mind...live ur life"


i have a request sister Muslimah..please don't ban any of the anti-sunnah crew...let them dwell...soon the truth about them will be revealed ( look at anti arabs racism in the above post)....let people know more about the enemy.

[Muslimah]

la Hawla wala qowata ila billah la Hawla wala qowata ila billah la Hawla wala qowata ila billah


Inn lellah wa inna elayhee rajeoun


"Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse" (Quran 3:118)


Qutuz I am surely not banning them Insh a Allah, but dont call them anti sunnah, these are not Muslims. But Mash a Allah u have an attractive style of expression, u did make me smile Mash a Allah Jazakum Allah khairan


Brother Insh a Allah they say Quran is between us and them, then they deny the sanctity of Kaba`a (Baytullah Al haram), I wonder what they say about the Ayahs which I am about to post Insh aAllah


u know what Qutuz, they revealed themselves totally with this post.


lul u might consider controling your temper. And if u just follow the questions are being answered Insh aAllah. Just follow the thread ok again control your temper, we are not here to fight remember.

[Muslimah]

I am not sure if your scholars are using Quran, but just look at the following ayahs:


"Verily! Those who disbelieve and hinder (men) from the Path of Allah, <b>and from Al-Masjid-al-Haram (at Makkah) which We have made (open) to (all) men, the dweller in it and the visitor from the country are equal there [as regards its sanctity and pilgrimage (Hajj and 'Umrah)].</b> And whoever inclines to evil actions therein or to do wrong (i.e. practise polytheism and leave Islamic Monotheism), him We shall cause to taste a painful torment.* And (remember) when We showed <b>Ibrahim (Abraham) the site of the (Sacred) House (the Ka'bah at Makkah) (saying):</b> "Associate not anything (in worship) with Me, [La ilaha ill-Allah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah Islamic Monotheism], <b>and sanctify My House for those who circumambulate it, and those who stand up for prayer, and those who bow (submit themselves with humility and obedience to Allah), and make prostration </b>(in prayer, etc.); * And proclaim to mankind <b>the Hajj </b>(pilgrimage). They will come to you on foot and on every lean camel, they will come from every deep and distant (wide) mountain highway (to perform Hajj * That they may witness things that are of benefit to them (i.e. reward of Hajj in the Hereafter, and also some worldly gain from trade, etc.), and mention the Name of Allah on appointed days (i.e. 10th, 11th, 12th, and 13th day of Dhul-Hijjah), over the beast of cattle that He has provided for them (for sacrifice) (at the time of their slaughtering by saying: Bismillah, Wallahu-Akbar, Allahumma Minka wa Ilaik). Then eat thereof and feed therewith the poor who have a very hard time. * Then let them complete the prescribed duties (Manasik of Hajj) for them, and perform their vows, and circumambulate the Ancient House (the Ka'bah at Makkah).


" (Quran 22: 25 - 29)


I am not sure which Quran do they read, but Qutuz u have an excellent point, they are omitting all the duties off the Quran, then calling it Islam. Wallah u a`alem, I think they are a group of non Muslims studied a bit of Quran and just seeking to distort the religion of Allah, which will not happen of course.


There is more about this topic but I prefer not to post long posts for people to digest


O BTW the Surat I quoted from is titled Haj, a whole Surat on Haj.........