we all believe in the same God, but some groups of people have other purposes so they try to continue this fight. We, all believer, should be aware…
A Muslim Call To The Israelis
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11-02-2004, 09:51 PM
I couldn't view the webpage because it said "access limited" or something, but I'd like to applaud you on making the statement that no matter if you are Christian, Jewish, or Muslims, you all worship the same God, and this fighting among his children can only be making him sadder and angrier.
11-03-2004, 09:38 AM
http://www.harunyahya.com/32israelis_soc13.php Peace in Ireland try it from there again, it worked for me. Quote:Christian, Jewish, or Muslims, you all worship the same God, and this fighting among his children can only be making him sadder and angrier. I'm all for the fight to stop and everything, but I just wanted to say that we are not the children of God, We are his creatures and slaves. And to be really honest, I don't think the real fight has even began yet. Do you really think that this world will end the way it is now? The muslims always being bullied, treated so horribly everywhere. I'm not trying to stir things up around this thread, but Allah has promised us victory in the Quraan. There will be a day when no one can shut us up with a bunch of missles anymore. I can't wait for that day to come inshaAllah. The day when the Mahdi will come and Prophet Isa will give Palastine its long awaited freedom at last. The day when kafirs will out number the muslims and still the muslims will be the victorious. I'm tired of seeing us being treated like we are nothing, so I for one cannot wait for that day to come.
11-03-2004, 11:37 AM
Quote:I'm all for the fight to stop and everything, but I just wanted to say that we are not the children of God, We are his creatures and slaves. PII took the word 'children of God' from Judo-Christian Scriptures, which call God as Father. In order to remove this confusion, once for all' God did not call Himself as 'Father' in His Final Testament (Holy Qur'an), but used 100 of His major Attributes for Himself. As a matter of fact, Jews and Christians have been fighting Islam, since the day it was proclaimed by the Prophet (pbuh) in 610 CE. The only difference between now and in the early centuries was that at that time, the Muslims were united under Islam more than they are divided for the last 300 years. So, instead of putting all the blame on non-Muslims' eternal enemity - Muslim must take care of sectarians, secularists, and other 'collaborators' among them before they blame the Jews, Christians, Hindus and Atheists. As for the final victory is concerned - All the corrupted messages of God has more such promises to bring more 'sheep to their flock' than Islam. For example, ask Rev. Pat Robertson. He will tell you that the 'Anti-Christ (Dajjal)' will be a Jew (according to Bible), but when bullied by Zionists - he 'retracted' from his 'holy message'. For a start - Muslims if cannot help - has to stop apologizing to the non-Muslims on behalf of Hamas, Hezebullah, Islamic Iran, Osama bin Laden and all the Muslim freedom fighters who are fighting to free themselves from the chains of occupation at the hands of Kuarrs in Palestine, Afghanistan, Chechyna, Kashmir, Iraq, Philippines, etc. Wa Salaam.
11-03-2004, 12:39 PM
Quote:For a start - Muslims if cannot help - has to stop apologizing to the non-Muslims on behalf of Hamas, Hezebullah, Islamic Iran, Osama bin Laden and all the Muslim freedom fighters who are fighting to free themselves from the chains of occupation at the hands of Kuarrs in Palestine, Afghanistan, Chechyna, Kashmir, Iraq, Philippines, etc. I 100% agree with this, the last thing we need to do is apologizing to any1, we are sure we are right we worship only Allah and we should not fear any1 but him. I said many times on many posts that we need to rebuild ourselves we muslims, we need to know our relegion better because most muslims are ignorant of their deen, and we must be more faithful and closer to our Creator. Only then we will have better leaders and we will gain victory. Wasalam
11-03-2004, 12:43 PM
The web link attached above, I have never read anything so rubbish in all my life!!! It is as if Harun is asking, rather begging the Jews. Since we are muslims, there is no mention of Islamic evidences when discussing the solution! Have we gone so away from Allah SWT and his rasool that we use our own minds and use the Torah as explanations for our success??? Al-Ahzab (The Confederates) - 33:36 وَمَا كَانَ لِمُؤْمِنٍ وَلَا مُؤْمِنَةٍ إِذَا قَضَى اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ أَمْرًا أَن يَكُونَ لَهُمُ الْخِيَرَةُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِمْ وَمَن يَعْصِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلَالًا مُّبِينًا And it becometh not a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His messenger have decided an affair (for them), that they should (after that) claim any say in their affair; and whoso is rebellious to Allah and His messenger, he verily goeth astray in error manifest. Like Intuition, I do not wish to stir anything here but reading such filth is as if some people have no backbone i.e. spineless! Al-Mulk (Dominion) - 67:22 أَفَمَن يَمْشِي مُكِبًّا عَلَى وَجْهِهِ أَهْدَى أَمَّن يَمْشِي سَوِيًّا عَلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ Is he who goeth groping on his face more rightly guided, or he who walketh upright on a beaten road? Maybe we should do some research on Umar bin Al-Khattab when he went to As-Sham as that was the Ijma of the companions. And I have to add one more thing here, The call to the unity of relegions is a dangerous call brothers and sisters in Islam be aware of that, it is really a fight against Islam and a gainst The Word of Allah, Allah said in his Holy Quran: Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem: 84. Say (O Muhammad ): "We believe in Allâh and in what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down to Ibrâhim (Abraham), Ismâ'il (Ishmael), Ishâque (Isaac), Ya'qûb (Jacob) and Al-Asbât [the twelve sons of Ya'qûb (Jacob)] and what was given to Mûsa (Moses), 'Iesa (Jesus) and the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between one another among them and to Him (Allâh) we have submitted (in Islâm)." 85. <b>And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, </b>and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. 86. How shall Allâh guide a people who disbelieved after their belief and after they bore witness that the Messenger (Muhammad ) is true and after clear proofs had come unto them? And Allâh guides not the people who are Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers). 87. 87. They are those whose recompense is that on them (rests) the Curse of Allâh, of the angels, and of all mankind. 88. They will abide therein (Hell). Neither will their torment be lightened, nor will it be delayed or postponed (for a while). 89. Except for those who repent after that and do righteous deeds. Verily, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 3, Surat Al-Imran The verses in bold are the words of Allah(SWT) and not ours, so if u preach any other different relegion it will not be accepted from u, so how then can we call for unity of relegions? There is only one relegion Islam, u accept u will be saved, u do not it is your own choice then face what Allah The great has prepared for u for punishment. Wasalam
11-03-2004, 12:59 PM
Quote: The web link attached above, I have never read anything so rubbish in all my life!!! Yes it is rubbish, i didn't even finish reading it, for that I removed the link. Wasalam
11-15-2004, 09:11 AM
Assalamu aleikum, The original post in this thread was ''we all believe in the same God, but some groups of people have other purposes so they try to continue this fight. We, all believer, should be aware…'' I am sorry but I don't understand this. What connection is there between believing in one God and by having another purpose to continue 'this fight'? Can someone enlighten me? Wasalam |
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