The Feminist Propaganda And How To Fight It?

[Rehmat]

1. The creation of a strong and loving family is perhaps the highest goal to which a man can aspire. This is the natural process by which men (and women) grow over a lifetime. This is how we find love and intimacy. It isn't for everyone but it is the path to happiness for most.


2. Stop listening to the media, your peer group or parents. "Trust thy self," - Emerson. What are your instincts telling you? For example, I always knew I wanted to rule my own roost but feminism prohibited this. Obey your instincts.


3. Make your work your passion. Work is the backbone of a man. Men get self-confidence from performing a task well, and receiving reward and recognition. Women will try to come between a man and his work but don't let them. Don't let anyone or anything thwart your genius. Women do not respect men who make them their first priority. Your work will keep you on course and help you avoid temptation.


4. Our society makes sex, love and female beauty into a phony religion in order to distract and manipulate us. Sex and beauty get tedious pretty quickly. The magic ends. Real love develops over a long period of time and is based on trust.


5. Do not put beautiful women on a pedestal. They are flawed like everyone else. They are more trouble because of their sense of entitlement. Do not marry someone based on sexual infatuation. I recount this error in my book "A Long Way to go for a Date."


6. Now that I have emerged from the hormonal haze at age 55, I can see that sex is a fraud and really a minor part of life. Sexual frustration is used to distract us while they establish a police state. People wouldn't be frustrated if they got married at a young age as they did in the 1950's and started families. Women should marry before going to university; men after beginning their careers.


7. Society is addicted to sex. The atmosphere is sexualized. Human relationships have been degraded. The best way to fight sex addiction is to get married. I am now happily married and find outside sexual temptations to be an irritation, like a shrill noise. Call it male menopause: I switch the channel.


8. Do not marry a woman who doesn't make you and her family her first priority. Do you not want to share your wife with her boss? If you have an aim in life, why would you marry someone who doesn't support it? In the marketplace of love, men have all the power. Our fertility lasts three times as long as theirs. We are the buyers. There are plenty of fine women, especially if we look abroad.


9. Real women are self-effacing. They put their husbands and their children before themselves. Avoid women who compete, control, criticize or complain. Avoid women who are overachievers. Don't get hung up on unavailable women. Choose a wife who will make a delightful companion and wonderful mother for your children.


10. Being possessive is natural. A man wants to possess a woman. Women want to be possessed. In the act of love, we say a man "possesses" a woman. Total love equals total possession. This is not the same as domination. It is union based on mutual trust and love.


11. Think of your semen as your unique spirit and essence. Would you entrust it to a vulgar or mediocre woman just because she was attractive? Ideally we would only have sex with a women we would want to mother our children. This is why sex was reserved for marriage.


12. The media is doing a number on us regarding children. How often do we see children portrayed in a positive light? We are rich in proportion to the things we love. The highest love is that of husband and wife, and parents and their children.


13. Don't waste your time "looking for God." We find God by serving Him, obeying Him and sacrificing ourselves. God is your conscience, your sense of right and wrong, and the ideal of absolute truth justice and love. We are not men because we refuse to sacrifice ourselves to God. Truth is liberating even if it is the truth about our present bondage. (By: Dr. Henry Makow, PhD)

[Peace in Ireland]

11. Think of your semen as your unique spirit and essence.

Oh I do, and I've named my semen Reginald Poppelton. What's your semen's name?

[laian]

Assalamu alaikum,


Wow, it's amazing how afraid men are of women. And it's interesting how most of these points emphasize the "power" a man has over a woman, even including his choice of a woman.


Men are so afraid of feminism because it is actually a backfiring of their social construction which has existed for centuries. If these men had recognized women's proper rights to begin with, there would not be a power struggle today.


How beautiful Islam is in giving women such a high, respectable status and guaranteeing women their rights, which are even more than a man has. Women in Islam are protected and respected, and are treated as TRUE equals to their male counterparts. This is why you never hear of women in Islam fighting to become like a man, and you never hear of men in Islam speculating about how to get control of the women.


Western feminism seeks equality with men, which women deserve. But the equality they seek is being confused with SAMENESS, which is a fallacy. By our very physical makeup men and women are different. It's truly sad to see a woman who wants to work like a man and fight against all her natural tendencies.


By doing this, women are going overboard in fighting for "equality." Few people realize that <b>sameness</b> is not needed to reach equal status, and women are thus reacting to centuries of ill treatment. They want their power back. But the west has no idea of what a woman's power is. All they see is what a man's power is, so they fight for this. And men are scared, because you know what? Women are strong, and they will take what they want -- it's just too bad they are blind to what they really should want.


And they are blind because of the social construction men in power have created. Men are scared, and they are fighting feminism. But they don't need to fight feminism. They simply need to give women the respect and status they deserve.


But this won't happen in the west.


Islam is a wonderful example, if only they could see. For years I felt the hatred against men that feminism instills in a woman. When I found Islam and I learned the status of women, all of that hatred melted away. I have never felt more secure in my femininity.


Alhamdulillah for the gift of Islam, may Allah guide us all to the right path. Ameen.

[Anyabwile]

I actually agree with a lot of the things this guy has written here, even if the book he wrote (which i had a quick look for online) seems a little suspect. There are some funny reviews on it tho...check Amazon. But yeh i agree with a lot of points and there a few i disagree with, saying women should only make you their priority, i can't see how that's respectful to a woman at all. I've heard others say this and i just don't get it. The whole make the woman a lifeless zombie that serves you wide eyed and emotionless thing is not for me. But like i said theres some bits i DO agree with.


I especially agree with the not putting beautiful women on a pedestal, there are some who seem to expect to be almost worshipped and it's quite off putting actually. Not sure i agree with his "act of love" theory, not really sure where he's trying to go with the whole possesion thing but besides that, most of whats here seems to fit in with the Islamic way of thinking regarding marriages and men and women within them does it not?


Also I'm not sure i'd agree from reading the points here, that this man is "afraid of women" i think thats a standard response any man thinking in this way would receive from a lot of westernised women actually. Like i said most of above seems to fit in with the Islamic way of thinking. Laian what is it specifically about these points you disagree with, this could be a good topic for debate.

[Rehmat]

Oh I do, and I've named my semen Reginald Poppelton. What's your semen's name?

I never thought about that - but since you mentioned it - how do you think naming it Theodor Herzl would sound to you

[laian]

Assalamu alaikum,


Anyabwile, you are right, a lot of his ideas fit in with Islam. Things such as creating a strong and loving family (1) and that sex is reserved for marriage (11).


I don't have a problem with the <b>outcomes</b> he is proposing, such as "real love develops over a long period of time and is based on trust" (4).


However, he is blaming women as the obstacles to his ideal male existence. He is afraid of women and the power they have to keep him from this. Read:


2. I always knew I wanted to rule my own roost but feminism prohibited this.


3. Women will try to come between a man and his work


4. Our society makes sex, love and female beauty into a phony religion


5. (Beautiful women) are more trouble because of their sense of entitlement.


8. Do you not want to share your wife with her boss?


9. Avoid women who are overachievers.


10. In the act of love, we say a man "possesses" a woman.


13. Truth is liberating even if it is the truth about our present bondage.


There is nothing wrong with the situations he wants. But he is trying to blame it on women and feminism, when it is his ideals in the first place that are causing women to react and to fight back. He is giving advice to men on how to control the <b>presence</b> of women in their lives. Rather, they should be controlling <b>how they treat</b> the women in their lives.


Does that make sense?

[laian]

I should add that although I believe the problem lies in how women are treated, it is far too late for this society to just change the way they treat women. The problem has escalated too far. The only thing left for them is for each side (men and women) to fight to have the upper hand. Otherwise, one side will always be left short-changed.


That's why in my original post I said it's very sad that this society cannot see the example Islam gives, and the fact that in Islam there is absolutely no such controversy. Just for one example, in Islam a "beautiful woman" poses no threat. No one puts her on a pedestal, and she does not have the same "sense of entitlement" that a beautiful western woman would (incidentally I totally agree with his point about that, I have seen too many women flaunt their bodies to get what they want -- and it works, how sad. But don't blame it on the woman, they only do it because they learned that this society values beauty above all else in a woman). So it's a problem with <b>society</b>, not with women.


In Islam it doesn't matter if a woman is beautiful. Only piety matters. And the same for men. "Verily, the most honored among you in the sight of Allah is the one who is the most righteous." 49:13


This sentence ALONE could transform the american society if they took it to heart.


May Allah guide us to the right path, ameen.


salam alaikum

[Anyabwile]

Asalamu alaikum,


Most of the points you disagree with are the same ones i do as well you'll notice. However theres some where i don't agree with you on. So below are the points you picked out you dont agree with, let me respond to these...

2. I always knew I wanted to rule my own roost but feminism prohibited this.

My personal response to this is a solid rleationship between me and my wife in the household would be more important than whether i rule inside the home or not. Of course i'd want to be respected but then so would my wife want to be respected, so there's no problems here. So no, i'm not really with him on this one. Although i do understand what he's saying. I actually think he's struggling to try and admit what he just <b>really </b>wants from a relationship. The same thing he wanted when he went to search for a bride abroad. (Check his book out online)

3. Women will try to come between a man and his work

I don't agree with him on the specific quote you've pulled above but i think theres an argument in him saying "Women do not respect men who make them their first priority." If you treat someone too good, theres an argument there to say they would loose respect for you? Respect probably isn't the right word but you know where i'm trying to go. I'm not an expert in this, i've only ever been in one relationship in my life but i've seen it happen and it's happened to me. But on his other point i'm not sure women will want to come between a man and his work. If your wife loves you so much she wants you to stay home but you have to work, i don't see that as a bad thing at all, having a wife who wants to be with you? is this what he means? I can't see the negative here, a loving wife who wants to be with you? Someone help me out here, because i'm missing something.

4. Our society makes sex, love and female beauty into a phony religion

Agree with him here, especially sex, i almost used to feel strange when i was younger, staying loyal with the same partner for nearly seven years. I think i said in another post i used to get called Grandad by my friends cos i never wanted to go out clubbing looking for girls, i was happy at home. I would agree society makes sex and female beauty into some kind of religion. How a woman looks on the outside is pushed so hard in this society that it's all men see and gravitate toward. However I don't agree that society makes Love into a religion, i don't think he's right there, quite the opposite.

5. (Beautiful women) are more trouble because of their sense of entitlement.

It is true, not in all cases of course but Beautiful women know they are Beautiful and think it is going to last forever. They forget Allah(Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala) gave them this beauty in the first place, and do not thank him so. Theres a lot of attractive women that know they are, and make it known, that they know they are in their dress attitude and social interactions. Some men like this, but even before i was Muslim it was a direct turn off for me. Modesty was/is much more attractive personally. So yup i agree with him. And sadly i know some women who will argue to the death they are Muslim but don't wear Hijab, who use their beauty tactfully.

8. Do you not want to share your wife with her boss?

Yeh he kinda stumbles with everything he writes in this section, as i said in my pervious post i don't agree with what he writes here about women making you their priority anyway. And this... "In the marketplace of love, men have all the power...We are the buyers. There are plenty of fine women, especially if we look abroad" Market place of <b>love</b>??? No no no no don't like that at all. From this i visualise women as hunks of pork at a butchers, waiting to be picked from whoever is the choicest. Yuerk, nuff to make you sick.

9. Avoid women who are overachievers.

To finish this off i would say...Avoid women who are overachievers.....if you're talking career wise and you want a family then yes avoid them. But overachieving in other ways, in knowledge etc etc Islamic studies, or studies in general then no i don't agree with him. But you can't have a family with a woman Islamically if she wants to overachieve career wise, unless you switch roles. Which i personally wouldn't have had a problem with before i was Muslim but now i am Muslim, although not forbidden, that switchng roles thing is not very Islamic is it...plus i have no patience with Children, only if they're good an i give them time.

10. In the act of love, we say a man "possesses" a woman.

Yes i already commented on this dodgy statement. I also read from an ask a scholar website online that in Islam, Rape in marriage is not recognised, is this true? Should scholars / Imams be saying things such as this online? Another topic i think.

13. Truth is liberating even if it is the truth about our present bondage.

To say men are in bondage to womens feminism is just nuts, but there is a growing movement of women like this but...because these particular women are women i am now never going to really interact with, hopefully never speak to and especially never approach for marriage then it's not really a problem for me. Dr Henry Makow PHD, really needs Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala) if he hasn't found him already.

[Rehmat]

The Western concept of Feminism is not based on the moral or financial uplift of the ‘better half’, but to ‘depopulate’ the world so that the vultures within the society can maintain their ‘high standard of living’.


The elite just loves birth control. At the beginning of the 20th Century, huge fortunes were built by monopoly capitalists like J.P. Morgan and J.D. Rockefeller, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Ted Turner are among the ultra rich that have donated billions to spreading the gospel of contraception, abortion, and feminism using the United Nations and "US Aid." Rockefeller funded the invention of the pill, the IUD and owns the rights to the abortion drug RU-486. In the last 50 years, billions of public dollars have been spent on ‘family planning’ designed to limit population by deceit and coercion, including compulsory abortion and infanticide. In ‘The War Against Population’, Dr. Jacqueline Kasun writes that in 1981, a directory of population control agencies in Washington DC listed 92 private (but mostly publicly funded) agencies, 12 United Nations and 57 agencies of the US government. ‘The real problem of government family planning is not one of families out of control but of planners out of control,’ she wrote.


For the same reason, the Western intellectuals are behind ‘sexual liberation’ and ‘gay liberation’. Through funding and media control, they make us regard sex as a recreation/physical release rather than as the expression of a spiritual bond (i.e. a loving marriage) resulting in children.


In the bible of modern feminism, "The Feminine Mystique" Jewish-Communist Betty Frieden makes this obscene comparison between housewives and Nazi concentration camp inmates.


Since these ‘vultures’ have controlled the population in the West - The US birthrate has been cut from 4 to 2 children per woman, the European and Canadian is 1.5. (they need 2.2 just for replacement.) Russia (1.17 children) will see its population plummet from 145 million to 115 million by 2015. In the "Death of the West," Pat Buchanan argues that population decline is responsible for the inevitable extinction of the West. Now their ‘depopulation smoking gun’ is pointed toward the Islamic society, which have an average birth rate of between 4 to seven per woman.

[laian]

Assalamu alaikum,


Anyabwile, it seems we agree on everything... we are just saying it in different ways. I don't have time right now to make a detailed response, but I will just reiterate that everything on his list is portrayed as a problem coming from feminism, or more specifically, the women who are feminists. But in actuality, feminism is a problem that is a result of this society, so he should be speaking out against the society, because it is society that sees it acceptable for a woman to use her beauty to get what she wants, and whatever else we are mentioning here. It's a social problem, not a woman problem.


I agree with you on everything you say about relationships between a man and a woman, and I think this guy is basically trying to get at the same thing... but he's blaming the wrong phenomenon. He should not be fighting feminism -- there's nothing wrong with the *right* kind of feminism, as found in Islam -- he should be fighting the society that has produced this flawed sense of feminism.


salam alaikum