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Transmission Of The Qur'anic Revelation
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Quote:There are three ahadith in Sahih Bukhari, informing us that the Angel Gabriel used to recite the Qur'an with the Prophet, saws once a year, but he recited it twice with him in the year he died.

Back to the original topic, now.... :-) Hopefully you all can appreciate how difficult this is to believe since the Quran was "revealed" in 7 (and possibly up to 14) different recitations. So, technically, Gabriel must have recited the Quran with Muhammad once a year in 7 - 14 different ways. Then, in the year he died, he must have gone over it 14 - 28 different times!!! It seems that Muhammad would have little time to do anything else except reciting the book.


And a BIG, BIG question arises from this statement: <i><b>'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, 'In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish as the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue'. </b></i>.


Uthman states that the Quran was REVEALED in the dialect of the QURAISH!!! If it was <b>KNOWN</b> that the Quran was revealed in at least 7 different dialects, why did Uthman (many years AFTER Muhammad's death) seem unaware of this and in fact states the Quran was revealed in a <b>SINGLE</b> dialect?




Quote:The Prophet himself instructed his scribes as to where the different revealed verses should be placed, and thus determined the order and arrangement.

And here, when a new verse or group of verses was revealed, did he also tell them which version of the Quran to put them into? How did they keep all of this straight, especially considering that the Quran was being kept in loose, scattered pieces until after Muhammad's death? Did each scribe keep all the different "recitations" with him??? I'm sorry, this is just not coming together for me. I'll leave this for now, because it truly just doesn't make sense to my mind at all.




Quote:It is obvious that the history of the Qur'anic text cannot be compared with that of other Holy Scriptures.

I would agree with this statement.




Quote:'Umar was present with Abu Bakr who said: "Umar has come to me and said, the People have suffered heavy casualties on the day of (the battle of) Yamama, and I am afraid that there will be some casualties among the Qurra (those who know the Qur'an by heart) at other places, whereby a large part of the Qur'an may be lost, unless you collect it.

If all of the Quran had been written down, then how could there be a fear that "a large part of the Quran may be lost"? I mean, maybe a lot of the people who memorized it by heart may have died, but how could any of the Quran be lost if it were all written? Please explain this one to me.




Quote:The Mushaf of Ubay bin Ka'b (d. 29 H/649), He wrote a mushaf, in which two 'additional suras and another 'additional aya' were reportedly found.

This issue is not sufficiently dealt with by the author. I went to the link but did not see a real explanation as to why Ubay had 2 extra suras and 1 extra aya. It also seems that Ibn 'Abbas had the same 2 extra suras.


I'll stop here for now....

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#52

Bismillah,


One hadith for now,


Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 442:


Narrated Ibn Abbas:


Allah's Apostle said, "Gabriel read the Qur'an to me in one way (i.e. dialect) and I continued asking him to read it in different ways till he read it in seven different ways."

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#53
Got it. I'll add this one to my knowledge "bank". Thanks.
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#54

Bismillah


Peace ronniv


(If all of the Quran had been written down, then how could there be a fear that "a large part of the Quran may be lost"? I mean, maybe a lot of the people who memorized it by heart may have died, but how could any of the Quran be lost if it were all written? Please explain this one to me.)


If u re read the article, yes it was written but not compiled in one book. As u just quoted a large number of those who memorized it died


What is most important is a remark made in the same article that I am not sure if u observed it or not. Allah manifested and preserved it because He said so in the Quran itself.

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#55

Bismillah


reepi Allah Sobhanuh wa Ta`la does not need to rest as He stated in Quran to respond to this claim:


"And indeed We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six Days and nothing of fatigue touched Us." (Quran 50:38)

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