Was Islam Spread By Sword?

[Muslimah]

Bismillah
Peace reepi


well I waited long enough for u to reply I also posted the same question before to PII who also held on that and never replied, I posted the question to him also on his one of his infamous defense posts about jews.


I guess both of u got my point that is why u never replied. Am not sure about my assumption


But well let me tell u as u believe that Jesus (may Allah forgive me) died on the cross, who made the plot against him? werent the jews who made the plot and called the Romans to find him and drag him. BTW we do believe that they found him, but the one who was put on the cross was never Eassa peace and prayer be upon him but one of the Nasara whom Allah Turned him to resemble Jesus exactly and he was the one who was put on the cross. But in all cases jews are the one who attempted (or according to u killd jesus), Not sure why are u defending them sooooo much.

I guess both of u got my point that is why u never replied. Am not sure about my assumption


<b>But well let me tell u as u believe that Jesus (may Allah forgive me) died on the cross, who made the plot against him?</b> <b>werent the jews who made the plot and
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I see that u r escaping the point and just confirming what I know, the point is clearly underlined here.

[ronniv93]

werent the jews who made the plot and

To be more accurate, it was <b>SOME</b> of the Jews who set Jesus up and SOME of the Romans who actually carried out the act.

I guess both of u got my point that is why u never replied.

And out of curiosity, what point are you trying to make. You say that it's obvious, but in reading back through all the posts, I can't tell what it is.


Thx.

[Deen]

Allah states that the Children of Israel tried to kill `Isa by conspiring to defame him and crucify him. They complained about him to the king who was a disbeliever. They claimed that `Isa was a man who misguided people, discouraged them from obeying the king, caused division, and separated between man and his own son. They also said other lies about `Isa, which they will carry on their necks, including accusing him of being an illegitimate son. The king became furious and sent his men to capture `Isa to torture and crucify him. When they surrounded `Isa's home and he thought that they would surely capture him, Allah saved him from them, raising him up from the house to heaven. Allah put the image of `Isa on a man who was in the house; when the unjust people went in the house while it was still dark, they thought that he was `Isa. They captured that man, humiliated and crucified him. They also placed thorns on his head. However, Allah deceived these people. He saved and raised His Prophet from them, leaving them in disarray in the darkness of their transgression, thinking that they had successfully achieved their goal. Allah made their hearts hard, and defiant of the truth, disgracing them in such disgrace that it will remain with them until the Day of Resurrection. This is why Allah said,


[وَمَكَرُواْ وَمَكَرَ اللَّهُ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَـكِرِينَ ]


(And they plotted, and Allah planned too. And Allah is the Best of those who plot.)


[إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يعِيسَى إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَىَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ وَجَاعِلُ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوكَ فَوْقَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَـمَةِ ثُمَّ إِلَيَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ فِيمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ - فَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ فَأُعَذِّبُهُمْ عَذَاباً شَدِيداً فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالاٌّخِرَةِ وَمَا لَهُمْ مِّن نَّـصِرِينَ - وَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا وَعَمِلُواْ الصَّـلِحَاتِ فَيُوَفِّيهِمْ أُجُورَهُمْ وَاللَّهُ لاَ يُحِبُّ الظَّـلِمِينَ - ذَلِكَ نَتْلُوهُ عَلَيْكَ مِنَ الآيَـتِ وَالذِّكْرِ الْحَكِيمِ ]


t(55. And (remember) when Allah said: "O `Isa! I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify [save] you from those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve till the Day of Resurrection. Then you will return to Me and I will judge between you in the matters in which you used to dispute.'' (56. "As to those who disbelieve, I will punish them with severe torment in this world and in the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers.'') (57. And as for those who believe and do righteous good deeds, Allah will pay them their reward in full. And Allah does not like the wrongdoers.) (58. This is what We recite to you of the verses and the Wise Reminder.)

[reepicheep]

Ronniv93 wrote:


> And out of curiosity, what point are you trying


> to make. You say that it's obvious, but in reading


> back through all the posts, I can't tell what it is.


Muslimah, I agree with Ronniv93's comment above. I don't know what point you are trying to make, or what you want us to respond to.

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


Peace


ronniv u ve been responding on reepi a lot lately although u say u r not putting words on his mouth, u would not know the point since the question was not addressed to u.


reepi just go back to some of your posts and u will understand my point which I already explained telling u that u were defending the jews on another thread.


calm down both of u.