Validity of the Noble Quran

[Guest]

<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b>as salam a`alaman itaba`alhoda</b>

Habib, just also to fulfill my duty and answer a question u posted here being a female. Once I worked with a Jewish American woman for quite sometime that we developed a close relation. She was interested in studying women related issues in Islam. She made the same point about the difference in witensses. In no way this is disrespectful of wome. I just asked her, what was her behaviour during pregancy with her husband? she said I was very itchy asking for divorce for the tiniest argument, not having enough tolerance, tends to forget. Same conditions a woman passes by every month. In this she is not less than the man, but due to her psychological different conditions tends to forget or be under emotional stress that might make her judgment wrong. Allah, in the witness issue, stresses the necessity of a correct statement.  

As for inheritance, a woman is supposed to be supported by husband, brother or male members. She is also entitled for totally independant financial status. In other words, what ever inheritance she has, or money from any other source, a husband is not allowed to use, yet is obliged to support the wife. So that makes a man needs 2 times what a woman may take, since she will enjoy her own financial resources and be supported by the male member.  

I have another point but I will consult with Dan first

Very good Muslimah but I also note you did not respond to the number of wives a muslim man can have (4?) and yet a woman can only have 1 husband. I find that very odd.

Also, from this web site, read this article,

http://www.islamsms.com/en/modules.php...article&sid=309

<i> If at a particular time, a lady has no desire for sex with her husband, but he insists for it, what is her right of refusal in this context ? </i>

A5. If a husband expresses his desire for sexual intercourse with his wife, and asks her to fulfill his need, then she should fulfill her husband's desire, and <b>she has no right to refuse him or deprive him of his need</b> (unless of course if she is undergoing her monthly menstruation period or is down with illness.

Islam encourages and insists on chastity and fidelity. Islam prohibits and condemn illicit sexual relations, extra-maritial affairs, pre-marriage sex, fornication, adultery, prostitution, pornography and promiscuity. <b>It is for this reason that a wife is bound to fulfill her husband's sexual desires so as to prevent him form straying.</b>

Narrarted Abu Huraira

In other words, the husband can essentialy rape his wife and Allah is fine with that ?

Also, it is the fault of the woman that a husband strays from the marriage. Don't you think this seems a bit lopsided ?

No one has responded to an earlier issue I had in regards to the age of consent for girls to marry being as low as 9 years old.

Please respond to both these issues and try and make it seem sensible, fair and logical and then I can determine if Islam is oppresive for women or not.

[Guest]

<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b>as salam a`alaman ibtab`alhoda</b>

Habib, no one said that people get stoned for having sex. Only when it is outside of the wedlock.

Oh, that's OK then.

Now, even suppose a wife did have sex outside of marriage, do you really think a sane human being (husband)would want to his wife to be killed and his children left without a mother ? I know I wouldn't.

<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b></b>And why would u want women to be like a one night stand, having sex in an irrespectable manner.

I don't behave like this but if someone wants to then that is their business. This obsession with sex is unhealthy.

<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b></b>well sex is like food and air it is a need we all know that so does Allah. He is the Creator. He only regualted it.

I would argue that due to Mhammads insecurity regarding his younger wives, he made all of this up, not the creator of which we have no actual proof actually exists.

<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b></b>One correction Dan about the woman who came and confessed of zina (sex without marriage)

She came to the Messenger of Allah (PAPBUH) first when she was pregnant and confessed, he sent her back telling her until she gives birth. she came back, he told her to go back unti she finishes breast feeding. Can u see, these were all chances for her not to come back.

All I see is a poor, ignorant, uneducated wretch of a woman being murdered by a bunch of savages and a child left without a mother.

The fact that it still goes on in Islamic majority countries is a crime against humanity.

To use religions as an excuse to allow it to continue is reprehensible.

[MichelleSeeking]

If the woman gets stoned to death for having sex outside of marriage, what happens to the guy that had sex with her?

[SisterJennifer]

He is to be stoned to death as well. Sister Muslimah posted a story about a women guilty of adultry who went to the Prophet asking to apply the punishment. There is a similiar story about a man guilty of adultry who approached the Prophet with the same request.