04-08-2006, 11:19 PM
Quote:What is the fruitition? To believe that God ate and went to the toilet? This is what she is calling to. Surely even you have passed this falacy? Her works are a means to an end. And that is to call people to believe that Jesus is God or part thereof. And this is calling people to the fire. She has done them no favor.
Also, you do not know what her heart was, you have only words.
She has said by her words "Jesus is My GOD". And she has trod this path all her life. Her deeds as we all know were to call people away from the one true God. And what can be worse than this? To call people to the hellfire. We can only judge by what we see and by the revalations we are given.
Do you have a clear understanding of what the christian belief in Christ is?
I will not say that one or the other is correct. Obviously it would not matter. However, understand what most christians believe to be the reason why they worship Jesus, or appear to.
Jesus was supposed to be the incarnation of God - the living avatar of God, as it were. They believe that the seed that was given to Mary's womb was no less than God himself. Certainly this is within God's power. Some here have said that they do not believe that Jesus was Crucified - I was not there, so i do not know, but would God have been so vulnerable? On the other hand, the Gospel of Judas, which may or may not be valid, perhaps we shall see, suggests that the crucifixtion was arranged by Jesus himself, in collaboration with the man normally portrayed as the betrayer, Judas Iscariot.
This much is a bit to speculative for now. I see a repetition of the same statement, that we should put no other beside the Lord, but do the Jewish not have many names for God? Do you yourself believe 'allah' to be the one and only title for God? If you call a rose a flower, does it not have two names? They are both valid, but they are labels for two aspects of what a Rose is. Jesus is not beside God, Jesus is the extension of God, the physical representation. After his ascent to heaven, he was rejoined with God.
I realize that the Islamic view is that Jesus was but another prophet, but if from one's own point of view, one truly loves no other but god - simply recognizing the many spledors of God and adoring them both together and apart - then in the heart, one has not set anything beside the Lord in worship.
I would say that it is certainly true that many christians have a literal view of the relationship between God and Jesus. While I will not cast judgement on those in terms of their hereafter, such a view is rather simple. Clearly there are many translations and many interpretations of the verses of the Qu'ran, are there not? Do you believe that your own interpretations are correct, or are there other schools of thought within Islam as a whole? Are only those who think as <b>you</b> do destined for reward in the afterlife?
If one is to truly discern between the work of the Lord and the work of evil - whatever your interpretation may be of what that is - one must know the truth in the heart.
Surely the judgement of God is a matter of the true heart of the faithful, rather than the traditions associated with whatever religion they claim to have. Just as in Islam, you may speak to many christians and get many different views on their relationship to Christ or God.
Also, while many in the world of the living may deify other men or women, and may give them whatever glory they may - this does not mean that the individual themself does anything to purposefully attract such attention. Surely all of the prophets are held in even greater esteem, though i doubt they had the hubris you seem to attribute to those glorified by others.
namaste
Mahasvapna
