Quote:I fully agree with you that it was absolutely obligatory for men to accelerate towards jihad in Iraq. No matter what the consequences were. We are not making Jihad to receive reward from human beings. No but rather in order to fulfill a part of our religion towards Allah.[/quote:692cdd76a5]My point realy grows around that statment you made. No doubt we do Jihad not to be rewarded by mere mortals, but by Allah, yet what use will our Jihad be to our brothers if we brought no change? My dear sister, change wont happen with a few angry people rioting here and killing there. Change wont happen with rapping ourselves with bombs and blowing our our selves in public buses, cafetarias, markets, etc. If they play dirty, we will keep on playing clean. If they wage wars on nations whenever they get constipated, we will remain wiser and play our turn with heart.

i didnt get this from anywhere, maybe I have to learn more, yet until now, my personal belief is jihad, does not necessarily mean suicide. if there is no other way then that is acceptable, yet there are always other means. takes longer time? maybe. more effective? certainly.

Going back to the mujahideen in Iraq, those arabs that left their homes and families to protect something maybe even themselves still dont understand. just the other day i have watched on the Abu Dabi TV channel an interview with a few of those arabs. they actualy said that they felt that something strange is boiling ever since they were greeted in Iraq. these people didnt recieve any proper training to carry a gun, yet were thrown in the front lines against the most powerful army in the world. not only that dear sister, one of them also said that they were being bombed from BOTH sides. they were being bombed from within Baghdad.

the result was nothing more than a pile of empty bodies of people that came believeing they are protecting their religion and land, only to do absolutly nothing but bring tears to their families and loved ones. if they have been patient and stayed in their houses, nosed not into things they dont understand yet, they might have contributed to our rise. to our change, to the better. not through war, for it is not always the way out.

I do not carey any hatred or disgust against those brave men who went to Iraq, no, dont get me wrong. these people deserve alot of respect. but that is all. they didnt effect me, you, brother thunderblot, the US military, or anyone in anyway (excluding their families which they effected them by alot of tears and grief). But let me ask you, if they still lived, if they studyed and learned and worked, wont they have effected us more? the money they would have given a poor man in the street would be greater to our nation than that extra grave they made us dig. dont you agree? helping that old lady across the street would be of more use. for god's sake, if they got children, then teaching them and making them good muslims to rule tomorrow's world would be better.

am I selfish? maybe. but that realy depends on our aim. each one of us has an aim in life. ofcourse we all want to go to heaven, but how to get there, that is where our roads part. before i go to heaven, personaly, i would like to help this world to get better. the way its running right now, i wont be surprised if it blows into smithereans in the next two minutes.

i study economics at school, have been studying it the past 3 years. there is something called the business life cycle, once believed to be a life cycle of every business, only to know that it realy is the life cycle of every country. prosperity wont last, soon, there will be recesion and then depression. EVERY country, every nation. look at history and see how empires rise and fall. takes centuries some times, but no one lasts. no one.

this era is no doubt the imperialist, USA's era. but as i said, it wont last. people say that next in line to be shaking this world is china, i personaly believe it will be pakistan, yet going into that will takes us further from the subject than i believe i currently am. :wink: