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An apology for my Christian bretheren.... - MichelleSeeking - 07-13-2003


Dear Muslims,

Last week I came to this forum for the express intent of learning about Islam. Right now I'm happy as a Catholic and I don't feel as if I will convert - but I still wish to understand your religion, learn about the Qur'an, and know who the Prophet Muhammed was.

As I have perused the various topics here I have come across posts by fellow Christians that have left me feeling ashamed. I want to apologize for some of these posts and ask you all to please not judge all Christians through this narrow lens.

Though I believe my faith is of God I must deal with and accept the fact that Christianity has been shattered into tens of thousands of bickering denominations, each with it's own interpretation of key passages in scripture, each with its own idea of "truth", and most pointing fingers at every other denomination saying, "You are wrong and going to hell - and we are right!!!!"

Even the so-called "nondenominationals" are a denomination. If they or anyone trace their teachings and interpretations it will eventually be found that they adhere to the teachings of [i:da3e41f4a7]some[/i:da3e41f4a7] denomination that they had split away from at some point in history.

To understand some of the conflicting issues it's best to realize that almost all Christians today follow the teachings and traditions of Martin Luther - weather they want to admit it or not. Martin Luther removed 7 books from the Bible in order to promote his teachings (so they have a changed Bible) and he added things to the Bible in order to force God's Word to say what he wanted it to say.

(For example He added "only by faith" to Romans 3:28 in order to prove his teaching that we are saved by faith alone. "We hold that the human will be justified without the works of the law but only by faith.")

These same people will assert the opposite: that the Catholic Church added books to the Bible. But history proves this to be false.

Almost all Christians adhere to non-biblical teachings even as they thump their Bibles and say, "Tell me where X is found in the Bible!" This can cause a lot of confusion for new Christians and non-Christians. Here are a few:

Where does the Bible teach about how to have a wedding? A funeral?

Where are "sinner's prayers" and "alter calls" found in the Bible?

They teach that everything must be found in the Bible and that the Bible is the sole rule of authority - even though the Bible doesn't teach this anywhere.

They ignore the direct command of scripture to "stand firm and hold fast to the traditions..." (2Thess. 2:15) claiming that tradition is "unbiblical".

They teach that we are saved by faith [/i]alone even though the Bible says otherwise: "See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone: (James 2:24)

So when people come onto this forum and promote that they have the truth and the proper interpretation of what the Bible means, take everything with a grain of salt. The church down the street from theirs is teaching an entirely different thing. It's sad but true: christianity can be terribly confusing. There are so many different interpretations of our Bible. Key verses are twisted to suit each "denomination's" personal ideas but no one will admit to this. The only reason I noticed is because I was an non-Christian outsider attempting to learn about Christianity and I was not raised to think in one set way. I was "outside the box".

You are often being presented with the dogmas of one narrow slice from a huge pie. Please don't think of all Christians believing in these same things that are taught/promoted here.

I apologize for the attacks against Islam.

-Michelle




An apology for my Christian bretheren.... - Ahmed Abdullah - 07-13-2003


Thank you. There are all kinds of people in all kinds of religions. smart ones do not prejudge, and your post shows a lot of wisdom. Thank you for taking the time to do it.

Sincerly,

Brother Todd and Sister Jennifer




An apology for my Christian bretheren.... - wel_mel - 07-14-2003


dear michelle

thanks so much for your GOOD attitude, please keep it up.

Michelle just to inform you. WE DO RESPECT YOUR BELIEF AND YOUR FAITH. and you are most welcome to learn about Islam. i remember also that we answerd your questions before but we did not get your comments yet. please check your first post "many questions about islam"

looking to see you always in a very good health and May GOD be with you.

wel_mel




An apology for my Christian bretheren.... - Whisper - 07-14-2003

Why did you delete my reply?, it was not offensive.



An apology for my Christian bretheren.... - wel_mel - 07-14-2003


Whisper, there is NO ONE deleted your reply. please find it somewhere else.

wel_mel




An apology for my Christian bretheren.... - Whisper - 07-14-2003

Someone deleted my reply, these sick tactics are starting off again, deleting posts and trying to make it look as if I haven't bothered to reply when I did.



An apology for my Christian bretheren.... - MichelleSeeking - 07-14-2003

wel_mel I'm sorry I've been quiet for a while. I was busy reading all of your (the folks on this forum) replies and checking out the web pages. I'll have to make sure and post a similar response to my "many questions about Islam" post. [Image: smile.gif]



An apology for my Christian bretheren.... - wel_mel - 07-14-2003


thanks your reply Michelle. will be always waiting your comments/questions.

Whisper , once again no one deleted your posts , you have replied Michelle on "To Whisper and all fellow Christians on this forum" Forum. so go and check your reply there . no one touch it.

wel_mel




An apology for my Christian bretheren.... - Muslimah - 07-14-2003


As Salam a`alaman itaba`alhoda

Dear Michelle,

Again u just brought up a very good point. A verse in Quran says: لا اكراه فى الدين It translates as no compulsion in religion. We are commanded not to compel anyone to embrace Islam. Coming here to explore Islam makes it mandatory for us to provide proper info but not to ask u to revert. Doing so must be by your own free will.

Right now u r most welcome to continue your journey of searching. May Allah illuminate your way.




An apology for my Christian bretheren.... - AbuNoran - 07-14-2003


Michelle, although you are not responsible for his/her actions or sayings, offering this apology shows us how good of a person you really are.

We didn't think that he/she represents all Christians, he/she can't, he/she only represnts him or herself and her/his actions and sayings tells us and shows us his/her personality, way of thinking, way of acting, and a lot of other things too. People don't realize that their actions and sayings reprsents them, but they do.

Look at the difference between you and him/her. Your actions and his/hers. [Image: wink.gif]

There are good and bad in every religion, every culture, every community and even every family. You just have to adjust to every one differently. [Image: wink.gif]

My advice to u is not to waste your time reading his/her posts as u already figured out his/her personality and stay 8) as u r.