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Why more women are reverting to Islam - Muslimah - 12-17-2003
The question still remains, why are more women converting than men revert to Islaam? Perhaps they realize their Soul is worth the Factual
Research.
1. The Bible Convicts Women as the original Sinners, (i.e. Eve
picking from the forbidden tree){Genesis 2:4-3:24}. The Quraan
Clarifies it was Adam Not Eve {Quraan 7:19-25}
2. The Bible says, "The Birth of a Daughter is a loss"
{Ecclesiasticus 22:3}. The Quraan says both are an Equal Blessing
{Quraan 42:49}
3. The Bible Forbids Women from Speaking in church {I
Corinthians 14:34-35}. The Quraan says Women Can argue with the
Prophet {58:1}
4. In the Bible, divorced Women are Labeled as an Adulteress,
while men are not {Matthew 5:31-32}. The Quraan does Not have
Biblical double standards {Quraan 30:21}
5. In The Bible, Widows and Sisters do Not Inherit Any
Property or Wealth, Only men do {Numbers 27:1-11} The Quraan
Abolished this male greediness {Quraan 4:22} and God Protects All.
6. The Bible Allows Multiple Wives {I Kings 11:3} In The
Quraan, God limits the number to 4 only under certain situations
(with the Wife's permission) and Prefers you Marry Only One Wife
{Quraan 4:3} The Quraan gives the Woman the Right to Choose who to
Marry.
7. "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be
married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the
girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for
he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives"
{Deuteronomy 22:28-30}
One must ask a simple question here, who is really punished, the
man who raped the woman or the woman who was raped? According to
the Bible, you have to spend the Rest of Your Life with the man who
Raped You.
The Prophet Muhammad Says {Volume 9, Book 86, Number 101} Narrated
by Aisha:" It is essential to have the consent of a virgin (for the
marriage)".
Would the Christian men Reading this prefer the Women they know to
Be Christian or Muslim?
8. The Bible also asks Women to wear veils as in Islam {I
Corinthians 11:3-10}, this lowers the chance of rape, (God Forbid),
see statistic link below.
9. Women were given rights to Vote less than a 100 years ago
in the (US), while the Quraan (42:38) gave Women Voting rights
almost 1,400 years ago.
10. Islam has unconfined Women and has given them the human right
to reach for the sky. There have been Muslim Women Presidents
through out the centuries, but to this date, the oppressive
mentality of the men in the Western U.S.A. has stopped any Women
from becoming Presidents in predominately Christian countries,
while the Muslim countries have voted for and elected Female
Presidents.
Here is a list of previous Female Muslim leaders:
Khadija bint Khuwaylid
Aishah bint Abu Bakr
Fatimah bint Muhammad
Barakah
Ramlah bint Abu Sufyan
Rumaysa bint Milhan
Umm Salamah
Asma bint Abu Bakr
Zaynab al-Ghazali
Maryum Jameelah
The comparison goes on and on, to hear from some of these Converts,
including Nuns, and Many Famous People, visit here;
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/newmuslims/
For more information and Statistics, visit here;
http://www.jannah.org/sisters/
This is Dedicated to Past, Present, and Future Muslim Sisters,
Family and Friends, to the Devil who prefers slander and hype over
facts. Peace and Blessings upon All.
Why more women are reverting to Islam - SisterJennifer - 12-17-2003
It is true that the women in Islam is given far greater respect than she is in even "modern" Christianity.
Jazak Allah Khairn sister for this post.
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Why more women are reverting to Islam - wel_mel - 12-18-2003
Mashaa Allah Sister Muslimah... WELCOME BACK .. we are all MISSING YOU.
what a wonderful topic. ALLAHU AKBAR.
hey JohnDoe Great reply too
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Keep it up boy.salam
wel_mel
Why more women are reverting to Islam - Muslimah - 12-20-2003
as salam alykom wel_mel
Jazakum Allah khairan for the welcome, still on for limited time though until Insh aAllah my circumstances are over
Why more women are reverting to Islam - Muslimah - 12-21-2003
JohnDoe, still women are coming to Islam with all your comments.
Why more women are reverting to Islam - Purgetroy - 12-22-2003
Quote:The Qu'ran convicts women to be stoned to death for the sin of \"zina\".women AND men.
Quote:042.049 SHAKIR: Allah's is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth; He creates what He pleases; He grants to whom He pleases daughters and grants to whom He pleases sons."The believers who show the most perfect faith are those who have the best character and the best of you are those who are best to their wives" (Tirmidthi).
It doesn't actually say they are equal. However, the the attititude that a daughter is a loss is more of a culture thing rather than a religious thing, in my opinion.
" A believing man must not hate a believing woman. If he dislikes one of her traits he will be pleased with another" (Muslim).
Quote:Are women allowed into prayer with the men ? Are women allowed to pray or touch the \"Holy Book\" while menstruating ?women and men are seperated from each other during prayers. seperation deosnt mean that one is better than the other. it is just because men are not suppose to lay eyes on women who are not closely related.
concerning mensturation, im not very sure, but i believe it is a state of impurity. women AND men are not allowed to touch the Qoran while impure.
Quote:The Qu'ran allows husbands to beat their wives if they step out of line."Live with them (your wives) on a footing of kindness and equity. If you dislike them it may be that you dislike something in which Allah has placed a great deal of good" (4:19).
the prophet Mohammed said:
"Those who do so (beat their wives) are not the best among you" (Abu Dawood).
Quote:Does it really, how about you quote the verse where a \"virgins silence\" is construed as her permission to be married off ?"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best" (4:128).
what verse are you talking about?
Quote:How about the fact that women are still forced to marry their rapists in such muslim majority countries as paktistan, indeed, just recently a leading Turkish official was lambasted for the sentiment that he would force his daughter to marry the rapist if she was ever raped. How about the stigma that Islamic communities attach to women rape victims, that somehow the family honour has been sullied ? How about the fact that for a woman to prove rape is near impossible and that she also risks being convicted of zina ?Again, \"silence\" is construed as \"consent\" when a young virgin is being married off to a distant cousin.look at my reply to this topic.
How about a women cannot refuse sex with her husband if he desires it ?
http://www.islamsms.com/bb/showthread....=&threadid=1043
Quote:Your last statement gives you away as being some kind of religious bigot. Somehow Muslim women are superior to christian women ? Christian women are all sluts and whores or something ?she probably meant the women given by the Bible and the women given by the Qoran. if you make a comparision, the typical image of women in the Qoran is at a much higher digree than that in any other religion.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/humanrelations...l#_Toc335566656
Quote:A cultural thing that was in place long before Mohammad and Islam came along.there are alot of cultural things that have been removed or banned by religions, so it doesnt realy matter whether it was a cultural thing or not.
Quote:However, why was only one woman put on the Afghanistan Jirga and only after protests ?
Quote:Muslim women are not allowed to drive in Saudie, they are not allowed to paint their nails (unless on their period or something) not allowed to wear make up. etc etc etc.for both quotes, this topic again
http://www.islamsms.com/bb/showthread....=&threadid=1043
Why more women are reverting to Islam - Muslimah - 12-27-2003
The proof is that more women are coming to Islam
Why more women are reverting to Islam - Purgetroy - 12-27-2003
John Doe, I dont recall quoteing anything from the Old Testament. Its all from the Qoran.
Why more women are reverting to Islam - phatmonky - 12-28-2003
Quote:<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b>The proof is that more women are coming to Islam </b>Muslimah, I've bit my tounge until now, but your "proof" for this, and other things (like your writings about how the quran is proved because of words used to describe clouds) is laughable.
Stop the smoke and mirrors act, and let's get to some logic.
Why more women are reverting to Islam - phatmonky - 12-28-2003
Now I'm just irritated......
I took the most hard to believe of yoru quotes, and looked them up.
Muslimah, you paste information as truth without validating it. Or are we to believe you created this, and thus did so on purpose??
Let's look to Deuteronomy 22.......
http://www.bartleby.com/108/05/22.html
Maybe you, or someone you pasted this from doesn't know english well, and therefore cannot understand what this says??
Let's begin......
I'll put the biblical quote, and then in today's english.
Quote:22 ¶ If a man be found lying with a woman married to a husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.If a man sleeps with a woman who is married, they shall both be put to death.
Quote:23 ¶ If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto a husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;If a woman who is engaged sleeps with another man they shall both be put to death.
24 then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbor's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.
Quote:25 ¶ But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her; then the man only that lay with her shall die:<b> Here is the passage about rapings </b>
26 but unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbor, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
27 for he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.
If a man rapes a woman then only the man shall be put to death, nothing shall happen to the woman because she did not sin because she cried out and noone saved her.
Quote:28 ¶ If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;<b> and now, here is your passage that is supposedly quoted, and then comepletely misrepresented. This is also restated in clarification in Exodus 16. </b>
29 then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days
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If a man sleeps with a woman who is not engaged or married, and he sleeps with her, then the man shall pay a fine to her father, and they are to be married.
Quote:Exodus' clarification: ¶ And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.If a man sleeps with a woman that is not engaged or married, they will be married, unless her father refuses to grant this. Then the man man shall pay his fine according to the present amount set for the times.
17 If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.
As far as I'm concerned, this pretty much invalidates your whole post. I won't waste my time goign through the rest, since your most "shocking" passage is a falsity.