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The Obligation of Fighting Them {Apostate rulers etc} - Abu Dujanah - 12-28-2003
Then know that this disavowal necessitates fighting these rulers, this is because if the ruler disbelieves and turns away from the Law of ar-Rahmaan (the Merciful) then he is to be fought until removed and replaced with a believer. This is the second obligation.
On the authority of ‘Ubaadah bin as-Saamit (Radiyallaahu ‘Anhu), he said, “Allaah’s Messenger (Sallallaahu ‘Alayhi wa Sallam) called us to pledge allegiance. Amongst those things he conditioned on us was to hear and obey in our times of energy and laxity, hardship and ease, even if some of our own desires are lost, and that we should not dispute the people of authority unless he said ‘you see clearcut open Kufr for which you have a proof from Allaah.’” (Agreed upon)
An-Nawawee said, “Al-Qaadee ‘Iyaad said, ‘The scholars have consensus regarding the fact that leadership cannot be given to a Kaafir, and if the ruler were to apostate, then he must be removed. This is also the case if he left establishing the prayers and calling to it….So if he disbelieves or changes the Law or innovates, then he loses the position of authority, obedience to him is dropped, and it is obligatory upon the Muslims to revolt against him, remove him, and place a just leader in his place if they are capable. If this is not possible except for a group amongst them, then it is obligatory upon them to revolt and remove the Kaafir. It is not obligatory in the case of an innovating ruler unless they think they are capable of replacing him. If they really are incapable then it is not obligatory to revolt, but the Muslim should migrate from his land to another and escape with his religion.’” (Sharh Saheeh Muslim by an-Nawawee, 12/229)
Ibn Hajr said, “Ibn at-Teen said, ‘And they agreed that if the Khaleefah called to Kufr or innovation, then he must be revolted against.’” Ibn Hajr then said, “Basically he is removed due to Kufr based upon the consensus of the scholars, so it is obligatory upon every Muslim to revolt against him.” (Fath al-Baaree 13/123)
So you see that the scholars have consensus regarding the fact that a Muslim should not approve the rule of a Kaafir over him, rather it is necessary that might and honor be for Allaah, His Messenger and the Believers, as Allaah (Ta’aalaa) Says. So the submission of a Muslim to a Kaafir and his rules is a form of humiliation which is not worthy for the believer.
Also, you need to know, may Allaah Preserve you, that the status of an apostate in our religion, like these rulers, is more severe and harsh than that of original Kaafirs. Ibn Taymeeyah (Rahimahullaah) said, “According to the consensus, the disbelief of apostasy is harsher than that of original Kufr.” (Majmoo’ al-Fataawaa 28/478)
He also said, “It is affirmed in the Sunnah that the punishment for an apostate is greater than that for an original Kaafir from a number of angles. Amongst them is that the apostate is killed in all situations and no Jizyah is taken from him, nor is he given Dhimmah, unlike the original Kaafir who is not from the people of fighting. Since he is not killed according to the majority of the scholars like Aboo Haneefah, Maalik and Ahmad. For this reason it is the opinion of the majority that the apostate is killed, as in the school of thought of Maalik, al-Shaafi’ee and Ahmad. Also, an apostate does not inherit, nor can he be married, nor can the animals they slaughter be eaten, unlike the original Kaafir. There are other rules of this nature.” (Majmoo’ al-Fataawaa, 28/534)
And Imaam Ahmad denounced the act of giving the covenant of Dhimmah to an apostate. In Jaami’ al-Khallaal, he said that al-Athram said, “I heard Abaa ‘Abdillaah (Ahmad) being asked about heretics (apostates) and whether or not Jizyah can be taken from them? So he denounced such, instead he said ‘their necks should be struck by the sword, we never heard of such a thing in Islaam.’ Then he (Ahmad) said, ‘Subhaanallaah?! Jizyah being taken from the apostates?’ He was denouncing that severely. Al-Athram said, ‘He was manifesting that denunciation and stressing it.” (Part 1340)
Neigh, the scholars even believed that the apostate should not be buried:
Ishaaq bin Mansoor said, “I said to Ahmad, the apostate, if killed, what should be done with his body? He replied, ‘It should remain where he was killed so it is like that place is his grave. This pleases me.” (Part 1301)
Ibn Taymeeyah said, “Aboo Bakr as-Siddeeq (Radiyallaahu ‘Anh) and the rest of the companions, began by Jihaad against the apostates before Jihaad against the disbelievers from Ahl al-Kitaab. This is because Jihaad against these is a preservation of what has already been conquered from the Muslim lands and to force back into the religion those who want to leave it. Whereas Jihaad against those who are not fighting us amongst the Mushriks and Ahl al-Kitaab is an additional manifesting of the Deen. Preserving the capital is given priority over gains.” (Majmoo’ al-Fataawaa 35/158-159)
So the obligation upon every Muslim is to wage Jihaad against these rulers until they are removed and eliminated from authority over the Muslims. It is also obligatory upon all the Muslims to dedicate their efforts to preparing the tools of Jihaad as much as possible so as to return the authority of the Muslims to the earth which they conquered with their blood, then these accursed rulers came along and changed the faith and religion, replaced the Sharee’ah, and returned the authority of the Mushriks over the lands.
Also, know that these rulers are spreaders of corruption throughout the earth because of their hatred of this Ummah, and because of their ruling by the laws of Satan. Allaah Ordered the believers to wage Jihaad against the spreaders of corruption, He (Ta’aalaa) Says, {The punishment for those who wage war against Allaah and His Messenger and spread corruption thoughout the earth is that they should be killed, or crucified, or their hands and feet should be amputated from opposite sides, or they should be expelled from the land.}
These rulers have gathered in themselves the act of waging war against Allaah and His Messenger by turning away from the Sharee’ah of Allaah and leaving submission to the laws of the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and by spreading corruption through the earth. So the obligation is that the Muslims revolt against them until the earth is purified of them.
This matter should come to be today not tomorrow. This is because every day and moment that passes over our Ummah while these rulers are at the top of authority only leads to an increase of their evil and the Ummah distancing from the religion of Allaah (Ta’aalaa). This is because these rulers with their parties and institutions of corruption, plant roots of corruption in the societies, and use all their energy to make corruption the life, culture and food of these societies. So wisdom is not as some claim, ‘to be patient is better than rushing to fight these apostates who replaced the Sharee'ah. Rather, the truth is that every time the people of Sunnah, Da’wah and Jihaad rush to remove these apostates, they have done good to themselves and their Ummah.
Do you not see, dear brother, what the media ministers do? They spread heresy and apostasy, immorality, vices, beautifications of sins and fornication? They call to the trash and mindlessness of destructive Shirk beliefs?
Do you not see what the ministry of justice does? Legalizing the Haraam and sexual sins? Loss of rights and completely changing things over? Where is there a person who is sure he can get his rights or fend of an oppression from himself through these courts which are run by the so-called ministries of justice?
Then, do you not see these financial institutions which are run by the government? All of its matters are based upon Haraam interest. Noone is capable of securing his wealth except in these interest based banks. Noone is capable of carrying his trade on except through them. And all these loans, which they claim are only to improve people’s living conditions, are only performed with interest.
Do not forget to remember and think about the insurance plans which are forced upon people if they want to use life essentials like cars and other things.
Also, do you not see the ministry of education? See what it has done to a generation of youths who have graduated from its schools and institutions? What have they taught them and informed them about? What, from Islaam, have they reared and nurtured them on?
The days just increase the clarity of this matter, after the so-called peace initiatives with the brothers of apes and swine, when they removed every Qur’aanic verse or Hadeeth or tradition indicating the hatred the Muslim should have to his religion’s enemies. Also, they began to propagate what is called coexistence, which in reality is a destruction of the creed of Walaa’ and Baraa’. This creed which is needed for one’s Islaam to be sound, as was explained before. Also look to the rest of their educational institutions, like the colleges for higher studies and universities, and compare them to the command of Allaah (Ta’aalaa). You will see the full and clear reality of these institutions and circles, which are enforced by these Taaghoots and their aids.
So does any excuse remain for the Muslim to abstain from revolting and fighting against these rulers? When Allaah (Ta’aalaa) Says, {Fight them until there is no more Fitnah and the religion is all for Allaah.} Is the religion in our lands for Allaah? Or is it mostly for other than Allaah? And just a small portion of it they claim is derived from Islaamic Sharee’ah.
So if part of the religion is for Allaah and another part for others than Him, then it is an obligation to fight these rulers and wage Jihaad until the religion is all for Allaah (Subhaanahu wa Ta’aalaa) alone
The Obligation of Fighting Them {Apostate rulers etc} - wwjd - 12-28-2003
chill out both of you you will raise your blood pressure. wwjd
The Obligation of Fighting Them {Apostate rulers etc} - Abu Dujanah - 12-28-2003
He has a problem in the head.
Maybe lack of brain cells is the disease.
I wonder whats the cure.
The Obligation of Fighting Them {Apostate rulers etc} - wwjd - 12-28-2003
i don't think bitching at one another is the answer to the problem. do you abu? wwjd
The Obligation of Fighting Them {Apostate rulers etc} - Abu Dujanah - 12-28-2003
Its him, i mean whenever i post this jew thinks he's clever kid but all he does is post stupid comments.
The Obligation of Fighting Them {Apostate rulers etc} - wwjd - 12-28-2003
you don't know he is a jew. make friends and not enemies. see i am learning so much from islam already and John doe, guess who is teaching me-yep, abu! i am going to read the Quran!!
well gee, don't everyone fall down at once. wwjd
The Obligation of Fighting Them {Apostate rulers etc} - UmmHabibah - 12-28-2003
Assalam aleikum
JazakallahKhair for that. I was reading recently the foundation of the sunnah of Ibn Hanbal. SubhanAllah how the salafi's distort the facts, in the tafseer they were talking about the fitan of Hajaj and stated that no sahabi stood against him! They said Abduallah ibn Umar was witness and did not protest, amazing how they twist things all to call for not rising against the rulers.
This ummah will never rise with these leaders.
The Obligation of Fighting Them {Apostate rulers etc} - phatmonky - 12-29-2003
Quote:<i>Originally posted by Abu Dujanah </i><b>Its him, i mean whenever i post this jew thinks he's clever kid but all he does is post stupid comments. </b>why are you such an antisemite?
You help destroy my hope that Islam really is a peaceful religion, and not just the fanatics that use the religion for their own goals.
The Obligation of Fighting Them {Apostate rulers etc} - sabiqoon - 12-30-2003
Quote:<i>Originally posted by phatmonky </i><b>why are you such an antisemite?</b>Islaam is a peaceful and tolerant religion; probably more so than other religions because we are suppose to be humble and not arrogant. You are talking about anti-semitism, well there are racist Muslims against other Muslims, but they are not following Islaam, let me make that clear and another thing, we believe in treating all human beings with equality and justice and we do not think that the Muslims are somebody special or the chosen people. Only God knows who is special and only God is the judge of that and only one's behavior towards others and piety and humbleness is the indicator of one's good status but that in Islaam should humble you even more, because of out of Mercy of Allaah, you attained this position and not because you deserve it.
You help destroy my hope that Islam really is a peaceful religion, and not just the fanatics that use the religion for their own goals.
Regards,
The Obligation of Fighting Them {Apostate rulers etc} - Abu Dujanah - 12-30-2003
Quote:<i>Originally posted by sabiqoon </i><b>I use to be a salafee but they are so racist and because of that they are hypocritical. Your special if you are arab and if not then you are special if you are white(American or European), but everything else you are a loser.</b>I thinkthis is a gross exaggeration, yeah im a Salafi according to you i would be a racist, well guess what your wrong, ok?
Subhanallaah, they are the ones who need a life.
We know racism has no place in Islam, and its strictly Haraam, you may have arabs who are racist that doesnt mean all arabs are racists. Same applies to all other races.
So before you judge, at least judge justly.