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What about the Beard??? - naseeha - 12-30-2003
I have a Question:
I have heard soo much about muslim men having beard and how it is supposed to be... i have also heard alot of differences in opinion on how this beard is to be worn...
does anyone know with proof the exact islamic position on this?
What about the Beard??? - saalik - 12-31-2003
Salaams to you. I am sorry that I cannot at this time quote the actual hadeeth # but it says for men to trim the moustache and grow the beard.
What about the Beard??? - naseeha - 12-31-2003
Thanks saalik for your advice i have also heard this hadith... However I see many muslim men "marking their sideburns" and leaving the rest of the beard to grow....
also i heard someone mention of growing the beard to a certain length(i.e a fists length) does anyone know the daleel for this...
right now mine is not marked or anything and i have no intention of doing so.. but i would still like to know the proper islamic method... please help..
jazaakumullahil khair...
What about the Beard??? - Dan - 12-31-2003
Bismillah
As salam alaikum
Some salaf would trim their beards after Umrah or Hajj by grasping a fist full and cutting off the excess. Our Prophet, peace upon him, did not do this though.
I found this article by looking on the Sunnah Islamic Page:
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Ruling on shaving the beard
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What is the ruling on shaving the beard or removing part of it?
Praise be to Allaah.
Shaving the beard is haraam because of the saheeh ahaadeeth that clearly state this, and because of the general application of texts that forbid resembling the kuffaar. One of these reports is the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar who said that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Be different from the mushrikeen: let your beards grow and trim your moustaches.” According to another report: “Trim your moustaches and let your beards grow.” There are other hadeeth which convey the same meaning, which is to leave the beard as it is and let it grow long, without shaving, plucking or cutting any part of it. Ibn Hazm reported that there was scholarly consensus that it is an obligation (fard) to trim the moustache and let the beard grow. He quoted a number of ahaadeeth as evidence, including the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) quoted above, and the hadeeth of Zayd ibn Arqam in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever does not remove any of his moustache is not one of us.” (Classed as saheeh by al-Tirmidhi). Ibn Hazm said in al-Furoo’: “This is the way of our colleagues [i.e., the Hanbalis].”
Is it haraam (to shave it)? Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “The Qur’aan, Sunnah and ijmaa’ (scholarly consensus) all indicate that we must differ from the kuffaar in all aspects and not imitate them, because imitating them on the outside will make us imitate them in their bad deeds and habits, and even in beliefs, which will result in befriending them in our hearts, just as loving them in our hearts will lead to imitating them on the outside. Al-Tirmidhi reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “He is not one of us who imitates people other than us. Do not imitate the Jews and Christians.” According to another version: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad) ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab rejected the testimony of the person who plucked his beard. Imaam Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said in al-Tamheed: “It is forbidden to shave the beard, and no one does this except men who are effeminate” i.e., those who imitate women. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had a thick beard (reported by Muslim from Jaabir). It is not permitted to remove any part of the beard because of the general meaning of the texts which forbid doing so.
Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 5/133
As salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu
What about the Beard??? - naseeha - 12-31-2003
jazakallah khair Dan.. thanks for clearing this up...
However tell me....
putting aside the opinions of the scholars in the post that you just put up(all of whom i respect) do you know of the exact hadith that speaks of trimming the moustache and growing the beard
What about the Beard??? - Ahmed Abdullah - 12-31-2003
Asallamu alikum Brothers,
Vol. 7 Book 72. Dress
Hadith 781(Shahi Bukhari)
Narrated by Ibn'Umar: Allah's Apostle said, " Cut the moustaches short and leave the beard (as it is)."
Also Hadith 780(Shahi Bukhari)
Narrated by Nafi' : Ibn Umar said, The Prophet said, "Do opposite of what the pagans do. Keep the beards and cut the moustaches short." Whenever Ibn 'Umar preformed the Hajj or 'Umrah, he used to hold his beard with his hand and cut whatever moustaches. Ibn Umar used to cut his moustache so short that the whiteness of his skin(above the upper lip) was visible, anhe used to cut (the hair) between his moustaches and his beard.
I hope this helps in sha Allah. Wa salaam.
What about the Beard??? - naseeha - 12-31-2003
jazaakallah khairan brother todd for the daleel