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Jesus died for you - WarriorofChrist - 02-04-2004
I want to tell you all that God loves you so much Jesus died on the cross for all sins, past, present and future, He died so you can be seen sinless in the eyes of God, all you have to do is Confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." repent and ask Jesus to forgive your sins, and just like that its forgiven.
Jesus was the promised Messiah he came because he loves us so much.
The creator became part of the creation, Immanuel means God with us.
Jesus came and performed many miracles, like turned water into wine, walked on water, healed the sick and blind, brought back the dead.
Jesus did all this to glorify God and to show us the way.
Jesus was the only flesh on earth that was sinless, Jesus never sinned, because he was God in the flesh, he had to fulfill the prophecy of a sheep without blemish and had to die for many. Jesus gave his life they did not take it from him he gave his life for us.
Thats how much God loves us.
Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Tell me doesn't all that look like what you watch when you turn on your local news, plus this is the generation that saw the fig tree blossom, Israel became a Nation after 2000 years of being scattered God broung them back.
All this was prophecied in the bible, the generation that sees the fig tree blossom (israel become a Nation) will see the return of Jesus.
If you would like to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior and mean it with your heart please say this to Jesus right now, He is everywhere he will hear.
Dear Jesus, I admit I am a sinner in need of a savior.
I believe you died on the cross for all my sins and on the third day you rose again.
I ask you now to come into my heart Lord Jesus, forgive my sins, and save my soul Amen..
Welcome to the family of God, I know now you have a loving everlasting father. and he will show you things you have never seen before. God bless you.
Jesus died for you - Muslimah - 02-04-2004
let me see, now u r saying Lord jesus died for us, so u mean u r worshiping a dead God,
ok, people are sinless
how about those who kill, steal or other still sinless?:confused:
Jesus died for you - wel_mel - 02-04-2004
i think you came here by mistake .. this is an Islamic Forums to discuss an Islamic Issues. and what you are saying is not an Islamic at all. however., i'd like to correct your informations regarding Jesus Peace Be Upon Him.
we heard the claim that Jesus is God, the second person in the "Holy Trinity." However, the very Bible, which is used as a basis for knowledge about Jesus and as the basis for doctrine within Christianity, clearly belies this claim. We urge you to consult your own Bible and verify that the following conclusions are not drawn out of context:
1. God is All Knowing...but Jesus was not.
When speaking of the Day of Judgment, Jesus clearly gave evidence of a limitation on his knowledge when he said, "but of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32 and Matt 24:36) But God knows all. His knowledge is without any limitations. That Jesus, of his own admission, did not know when the Day of Judgment would be, is clear proof that Jesus is not all-knowing, and that Jesus is therefore not God.
2. God is All-Powerful...but Jesus was not.
While Jesus performed many miracles, he himself admitted that the power he had was not his own, but derived from God. He said, "Verily I say unto you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seethe the Father do..." (John 5:19) Again he said, "I can of mine own self do nothing: As I hear I judge, and my judgment is just because I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father which has sent me." (John 5:30) But God is not only all-powerful; He is also the source of all power and authority. That Jesus, of his own admission, could do nothing on his own is clear proof that Jesus is not all-powerful, and that therefore Jesus is not God.
3. God does not have a God...but Jesus did have a God.
God is the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and He does not call upon nor pray to any others. But Jesus acknowledged that there was one whom he worshipped and to whom he prayed when he said, "I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God." (John 20:17) He is also reported to have cried out while on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt 27:46) If Jesus were God, then couldn't this be read "Myself, myself, why hast thou forsaken me?" Would that not be pure nonsense? When Jesus prayed the Lord's prayer (Luke 11:2-4) was he praying to himself? When in the garden of Gethsemane he prayed, "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: Nevertheless, not as I will but as thou wilt." (Matt 26:36-39) Was Jesus praying to himself? That Jesus, of his own admission, and by his own actions, acknowledged, worshipped and prayed to another being as God, is clear proof that Jesus himself is not God.
4. According to the Bible, God is invisible to humans...but Jesus was flesh and blood.
While thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus himself said that this could not be done with God when he said, " No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18) "Ye have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His shape." (John 5:37) He also said in John 4:24, "God is a spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." That Jesus would say that no one had seen or heard God ant any time, while his followers both saw and heard him, is clear proof that Jesus was not God.
5. No one is greater than God and no one can direct Him...but Jesus acknowledged someone greater than himself whose will was distinct from his own.
Perhaps the clearest indication we have that Jesus and God are not equal, and therefore not one and the same, come again from the mouth of Jesus himself who said in John 14:28, "My Father is greater than I." When someone referred to him as a "good master" in Luke 18:19, Jesus responded, "Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God..." Further more, Jesus drew clear distinctions between himself and God when he said, "I proceeded forth and came from God, neither came I of myself but He sent me." (John 8:42) Jesus gave clear evidence of his subordination to God, rather than his equality with God, when he said in Luke 22:42, "not my will but thine be done," and in John 5:30, "I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father which has sent me." That Jesus would admit that he did not come into the world on his own initiative but was directed to do so, that he would acknowledge another being as greater than himself, and that he would negate his own will in deference to affirming the will of another, give clear proof that Jesus is not the Supreme One and therefore Jesus is not God.
Conclusion:
The Church recognizes the Bible as the primary source of knowledge about God and Jesus. But since the Bible makes it clear that Jesus is not the Supreme Being and the Supreme Being is not Jesus, upon what basis have you come to believe otherwise?
Now, the belief that the Supreme Being is a Trinity is false and completely inconsistent with the words of Jesus as presented in the Bible. God is One, not three. He is a perfect unity.
If you are interested in the truth about God and your relationship to Him, we invite you to investigate the religion of Islam.
What is the word of God about Jesus?
A. Regarding the Sonship of Jesus:
“ That is Jesus, son of Mary, in word of truth, concerning which they are doubting. It is not for God to take a son unto Him. Glory be to Him! When He decrees a thing, He but says to it 'Be', and it is” (Qur'an 19:34-35).
“ And they say, 'The All-Merciful has taken unto Himself a son'. You have indeed advanced something hideous. The heavens are well nigh rent of it and the earth split asunder, and the mountains well nigh fall down crashing for that they have attributed to the All-Merciful to take a son. None is there in the heavens and earth but he comes to the All-Merciful as a servant” (Qur'an 19:88-93).
“ Truly the likeness of Jesus, in God's sight, is as Adam's likeness; He created him of dust, then said He unto him, 'Be', and he was” (Qur'an 3:59).
People of the Book, go not beyond the bounds in your religion, and say not as to God but the Truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only the Messenger of God, and His word that He committed to Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers, and say not 'Three', Refrain, better it is for you. God is only One God. Glory be to Him - that He should have a son! To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth, God suffices for a guardian.
B. Regarding Jesus being God.
“ And when God said, 'O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say unto men, "Take me and my mother as gods, apart from God?" He said, 'To You be glory! It is not mine to say what I have no right to. If I indeed said it, You knew it, knowing what is within my soul, and I do not know what is within Your soul; You know the things unseen. I only said to them what You did command me: "Serve God, my Lord and your Lord." And I was a witness over them, while I remained among them; but when You did take me to Yourself the Watcher over them; You are the witness over everything” (Qur'an 5:116-117).
C. Regarding the Crucifixion of Jesus.
“ And for their unbelief, and their uttering against Mary a mighty calumny, and for their saying 'We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the Messenger of God'...yet they did not slay him, neither crucified him, only a likeness of that was shown to them. Those who are at variance concerning him surely are in doubt regarding him, they have no knowledge of him, except the following of surmise; and they did not slay him of certainty...no indeed; God raised him up to Him; God is Almighty, All-Wise. There is not one of the people of the Book but will assuredly believe in him before his death, and on the Resurrection Day he will be a witness against them” (Qur'an 4:156-159).
wel_mel
Jesus died for you - wel_mel - 02-04-2004
i just forgot something.
about the prophecies in the Bible. there is another Prophecy and Challenge in the Bible i want you to Fulfill it pls . if you believe in it.
In the Book of Mark16:15-18 Jesus giving glad news to those who Baptized in his name that they shall use his authority to cast out demons and to speak NEW Languages, also they will be able to handle SNAKES with safety and if they drik ANYTHING POISONOUS it will not hurt them , and they will be able to place their hands on the SICK and heal them.
I'm not asking you to drink ANYTHING POISONOUS.. because i dont want to be Responsible for your death.. but i'm asking you please to speak NEW Languages. like Arabic or Indian or whatever new Language you may like.....
take care
wel_mel
Jesus died for you - Abu Dujanah - 02-04-2004
WarriorofChrist, so what you saying is that Jesus committed suicide for us?
Pathetic, really.
Jesus died for you - phatmonky - 02-04-2004
Quote:<i>Originally posted by Abu Dujanah </i><b>WarriorofChrist, so what you saying is that Jesus committed suicide for us?</b>There's the "accepting, moderate" islam that I've come to expect from this board:rolleyes:
Pathetic, really.
Jesus died for you - wel_mel - 02-05-2004
John..
I was in the Philippines last few months , and I met a Pastor belongs to BORN AGAIN sect, and I asked him about this NEW LANGUAGES. He told me that while they are praying at 1:00 AM they start receiving the Holy Spirit. Then they start to speak NEW LANGUAGE or SPEAKING TONGUES, I actually asked him to show me part of this performance but he told me I don’t TEMPT God. So I asked him do you know what language are you speaking while prayers. He said I don’t understand it but I know that it is NEW… so it makes no sense to anybody. How can you pray to God without understanding what you are saying !!!!!
Regarding the snakes.. I also saw in the TV in Giness Record program a NON CHRISTIAN guy who Kissed a deadly Cobra and Snakes without any problems. So that means it is not so important to baptize yourself in the name of Jesus to handle Snakes with safety.
Regarding another Challenge in the Bible: The Book of Numbers. says: how to know if a man's wife commits adultery and there is no proof and there is no witness, the Bible gave us the solution to find out whether this woman commits adultery or not. PLEASE READ THE VERSES BELOW INTERESTING :
Numbers 5:11-31
11-12 and the Lord said to Moses "Tell the people of Israel that if a man's wife commits adultery ,13 and there is no proof, there being no witness, 14 and he is jealous and suspicious, 15 the man shall bring his wife to the priest with an offering for her of three litres of barley meal without oil or frankincense mingled with it for it is a suspicion offering to bring out the truth as to whether or not she is guilty 16 "The priest shall bring her before the Lord 17 and take holy water in a clay jar and mix into it dust from the floor of the tabernacle 18 He shall unbind her hair and place the suspicion offering in her hands to determine whether or not her husband's suspicions are justified. The priest shall stand before her holding the jar of bitter water that brings a curse. 19 He shall require her to to swear that she is innocent , and then he shall say to her " If no man has slept with you except your husband, be free from the effects of this bitter water that causes the curse. 20 But if you have committed adultery , 21 22 then Jehovah shall make you a curse among your people, FOR HE WILL MAKE YOUR THIGH ROT AWAY AND YOUR BODY SWELL, AND THE WOMAN SHALL BE REQUIRED TO SAY 'YES LET BE SO' ………….. up to the end of verse # 31
Now I'm asking the Christian who lives in the USA .. why they didn't follow this clear solution when the president Bill Clinton was involve of adultery problem with girl called Monica.. why no body among the Christians priests in the USA offered them this CLEAR solution to find out whether they commits this Sin or not ???? well, Christians answers on this is.. WE DON’T TEMPT GOD.
Regarding the (CAMEL JOHN) …. No comments.
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wel_mel
Jesus died for you - WarriorofChrist - 02-05-2004
First I want to give you a few scriptures.
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils," I Tim. 4:1
1 John 2:22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.
Quote:WarriorofChrist, so what you saying is that Jesus committed suicide for us?No you are not understanding Jesus died and on the third day he rose again, conquering death, when I say he died for you, I mean when he died he was a sinless sacrifice, a sacrificial lamb for our sins, like in the old testament they had to sacrifice animals for sin, Jesus was the perfect lamb of God without blemish and died for all mans sins.
Quote:how about those who kill, steal or other still sinless?Sin has it's own consequences, have any of you read the book of Jonah, God told Jonah to go to Nineveh, Jonah disobeyed and when he was on the ship, the waves started to get rough and he got swallowed by a fish. Sin has it's own consequences and many times it affects the people around us, like it did for the people in ths hip with Jonah.If they truly with their hearts believe in Jesus and ask forgiveness, God will forgive them, Jesus came so the sinners like you and me can have life, he came to set the captives free, to give sight to those that are blind. Jesus is so awesome. we are all under the curse of Adam, under Adam is death, Jesus is the second Adam sinless and died for our sins. with Jesus we have life.
Jesus died for you - Muslimah - 02-05-2004
Quote:<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b>let me see, now u r saying Lord jesus died for us, so u mean u r worshiping a dead God,</b>I will quote myself again, r u worshiping a dead God, and what a God that u call a lamb, la hawala wala qowata ila billah
ok, people are sinless
how about those who kill, steal or other still sinless?:confused:
Jesus died for you - WarriorofChrist - 02-05-2004
A dead person doesn't ressurect mohammad is dead, Jesus died and ressurected he is still alive, and soon he will judge the living and the dead, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess lord Jesus, one day youll see.
We are in the lasy days, Jesus is coming soon, repent and turn to Jesus now.