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Pigs on buses - Muslimah - 04-14-2004

as salam alykom

I got this from another board:

Question: Latest news reports say that the Israeli Government is preparing to place pigs on buses and other places so that the Mujahideen who carry out martyrdom opperations will touch the pigs before they die and hence be "denied entry to paradise"

"Though the pig is considered a defiled animal strictly forbidden in Jewish dietary laws, the Muslims forbid any contact with the animal. Any contact with the pig is punishable by denial of entry to paradise."

Is it true that any contact with a pig before death denies entry to paradise? If this is true, then will the shuhada (martyrs) still be considered shuhada? Or will the Palestinians have to quit martyrdom opperations in locations where pig is suspected to be?

Answer: Yes, it is a sin to keep or transact in pigs. However, involuntary, accidental, or unwitting contact with pigs is not even a sin, let alone something that would prevent entry into paradise.

And Allah knows best.

Wassalam,

Faraz Rabbani (faraz@sunnipath.com)

Sunni Path - www.sunnipath.com

any comments????

Pigs on buses - radiyah - 04-15-2004

alsalam 'alaykom

When jews do this, it means that they know that palestenian martyrs go to heaven by will of Allah, and that they are envious of that, but they are ignorant of so many simple things in relegion, or they think that muslims are ignorant of theirs. I think that now the operations will increase and not decrease. LoL really do they think that the palestenians will be afraid of being in contact with these pigs, and yes they will not touch them intentionaly for sure, anyways they will blow everbody up before touching any of these creatures [Image: biggrin.gif]

, Wasalam 'alaykom wa rahamt Allah wa Barakatuh

Pigs on buses - phatmonky - 04-15-2004

Quote:Originally posted by Muslimah as salam alykom

I got this from another board:

Question: Latest news reports say that the Israeli Government is preparing to place pigs on buses and other places so that the Mujahideen who carry out martyrdom opperations will touch the pigs before they die and hence be \"denied entry to paradise\"

any comments????

I have one....

Does anyone else want to know the REAL reason there will be pigs on buses?

Because pigs are more intelligent than dogs, and can smell better than dogs.

This isn't a zainy jewish plot to send muslims to hell

Pigs on buses - NaSra - 04-15-2004

Quote:Originally posted by Muslimah as salam alykom

I got this from another board:

Question: Latest news reports say that the Israeli Government is preparing to place pigs on buses and other places so that the Mujahideen who carry out martyrdom opperations will touch the pigs before they die and hence be \"denied entry to paradise\"

how ignorant! they think they can fool ALLAH.

ps: suicide bombers are not martyrs. Not according to our religion islam, there is a huge difference between jihad and suicide bombers.

Pigs on buses - SisterJennifer - 04-15-2004

Asalaamu alikum,

I think we should be careful in saying who is a martyr and who is not. Allah knows best what is in our hearts and He is the best of Judges.

May Allah guide us and have mercy on us all, Ameen.

~Jennifer

Pigs on buses - phatmonky - 04-15-2004

Quote:Originally posted by SisterJennifer Asalaamu alikum,

I think we should be careful in saying who is a martyr and who is not. Allah knows best what is in our hearts and He is the best of Judges.

May Allah guide us and have mercy on us all, Ameen.

~Jennifer

Is not the Quran the inspired word of Allah?

And does not the Quran say that all care must be taken to try to avoid women and children in Jihad?

And thus, does that not mean that bombs in familiy restaraunts are indiscriminate killings, as well as ignoring the word of the Quran?

Pigs on buses - radiyah - 04-15-2004

Quote:Because pigs are more intelligent than dogs, and can smell better than dogs.

oh really is that true, I never heard of such a thing before, well maybe y not. [Image: smile.gif]

Quote:ps: suicide bombers are not martyrs. Not according to our religion islam, there is a huge difference between jihad and suicide bombers.

We leave this to Allah, not us, he knows best, as sister jennifer said, all Islamic scholars say it is their right as self defense, so the judge to decide is Allah Almighty and not us.

Quote:Is not the Quran the inspired word of Allah?And does not the Quran say that all care must be taken to try to avoid women and children in Jihad?

And thus, does that not mean that bombs in familiy restaraunts are indiscriminate killings, as well as ignoring the word of the Quran?

Correct Phat, it is haram to kill women children and elderly in war, even animals or cutting trees or blowing houses or churches

or any worship place for christians or jews, except for those who worship idols and statues, they are to be broken. So Allah only knows if they are martyrs or not and he will ask them about those innocent souls insha'Alla(by will of Allah). But I still say we are not in their place, if we were, we never know what we might do, and especially now after bush agreed to sharon's plan, may Allah help us to what will happen in the next coming days, the region will blow up I guess,:confused:.

May Allah help us and be our guidance.

Pigs on buses - naseeha - 04-16-2004

How far wont these yahud go

may allah strengthen us against the evil within them

Pigs on buses - NaSra - 04-16-2004

Quote:Originally posted by radiyah all Islamic scholars say it is their right as self defense.

"All"?, sorry but I don't believe that to be true, All scholars and ulemas most definitely don't agree on this issue, and

Shaykh Uthaymeen, rahimullah, Shaykh Nasr ul deen Albani, raheemullah, Shayk Bin Baz, Raheemullah and others, are all very respected and pious scholars who speak against suicide and they say it is Haram.

Please find me a verse of hadith that says you can kill yourself (i.e die at your OWN hands, not the enemies during battle) and kill civilians going about their daily business whilst your at it. Find something from Islam that says you can do that.

Pigs on buses - Muslimah - 04-16-2004

as salam alykom

what intrested me in this post is the fact that Jews clealy admitted that Islam is true and Muslims who die fighting go to Jannah. Regardless of the disparity among scholars on this issue. I read several fatwas about it, I prefer not to judge and leave it to Allah.

However, again I fully agree with SisterJennifer. No one can actually call any dead person during a battle a martyre simply because only Allah knows the intention. Not only if the person carries an arm and fights boldy until killed. It all depends on the intention as in anything else, even posting here.

Alhamdulelah may Allah correct our intentions