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Is it allowed for a Muslim woman to marry a Muslim man who embraced Islam simply..... - NaSra - 05-30-2004

Is it allowed for a Muslim woman to marry a Muslim man who embraced Islam simply because of her? That is, he asked her to marry him and told her that he would leave his religion and enter Islam. Please help me for I know that I am the only reason that he entered into Islam. 

It is not allowed for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man. This is because Allah has said,

"They [Muslim women] are not lawful for them [the disbelievers] nor are they [the disbelievers] lawful for them" (al-Mumtahana 10).

Allah has also said,

\"And give not [Muslim women] in marriage to polytheists until they believe and verily, a believing slave is better than a polytheist, even though he pleases you.\" (al-Baqara 221).


If he enters into Islam and truly practices Islam, then it is allowable . However, he must be "tested" first to make sure that he performs his prayers, fasts and other acts of worship. Also, he must be learning the Quran, learning the laws of Islam, abandoning shirk, avoiding alcohol and all other forbidden acts. He should also change his religion o*n his passport and identification papers. o*ne should wait for some time after he embraces Islam to make sure that he is truly a Muslim and has not simply embraced Islam as a trick to be able to marry the woman. Otherwise, afterwards, he may apostate as soon as he gets married. If he does that, he must then be killed for the Prophet (peace be upon him) has said,

"The o*ne who changes his religion is to be killed."

Footnote

1. Recorded by al-Bukhari

Shaikh ibn Jibreen 

I just would like to add that this rule also implies for the Brothers, There are alot of brothers who marry women "whom they had relationships with "before those women accepted islam" and their wish become true when those women utter and declare their sha-hada with La ilaha iLaL lah but the truth is many of them are doing that to please them, not because they are ready for islam. I pray that Allah protects all of our Muslim brothers from such women Ameen.

Is it allowed for a Muslim woman to marry a Muslim man who embraced Islam simply..... - Dan - 05-30-2004

Bismillah

As salam alaikum

I am going to get a divorce for this very reason. [Image: sad.gif]

Brothers beware!

As salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu

Is it allowed for a Muslim woman to marry a Muslim man who embraced Islam simply..... - SisterJennifer - 05-30-2004

Quote:However, he must be \"tested\" first to make sure that he performs his prayers, fasts and other acts of worship. Also, he must be learning the Quran, learning the laws of Islam, abandoning shirk, avoiding alcohol and all other forbidden acts.

Asalaamu alikum sister,

I want to first make it clear that my intention is not to debate, but this is confusing for me, and I wish insha Allah to have a better understanding of this post. Of course it can be noted that there are born Muslim men who do not practice their religion well at all, should they be held to the same srutiny and the same "test." I think the point is to ensure that the woman is going to have a practicing husband.

As you might be aware, I am a revert, and alhumdulilah so is my husband. If this brother who declared shahda meant it with sincerity, and Allah knows best what is in his heart, then we have to remember he is like an infant and he will need the help and the support of his Muslim brothers. Of course he cannot declare shahda and suddenly have this incredible knowledge of the deen. He has to learn, and this requires patience from the Muslim community at large. We have to work with them in steps. Masha Allah he made the first step by declaring shahada, I don't want to speculate on his intentions, and now that he has taken that first step, if the community around him puts the effort into his education, teaching him the prayers, what is lawful and prohibited, etc. they not only will get a reward for that, but this new brother of ours will see the compassion and unity that should exsist among brothers. Also the new brother will insha Allah strengthen in his faith, and insha Allah become a good husband and father for the children. A revert cannot do all this on their own, so I dont think it is logical to just put them to a test that he is not prepared for, you cannot take the test without first learning the subject matter.

Quote:I just would like to add that this rule also implies for the Brothers, There are alot of brothers who marry women \"whom they had relationships with \"before those women accepted islam\" and their wish become true when those women utter and declare their sha-hada with La ilaha iLaL lah but the truth is many of them are doing that to please them, not because they are ready for islam.

I notice the same thing sister, alhumdulilah I meet many revert women. And I dont like to put a blanket statement on them all, of course each circumstance is different. Some of these women turn out to be very thoughtful and passionate about Islam.

I just think that instead of saying, "we will put you to a test, and if you go back to your old religion, you will be killed." I think it would be a more productive approach to have patience with these people, and offer guideance. We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and when we start to see the stronger brother help the weaker one, and the stronger sister help the weaker one, insha Allah we will see things change in a good way. And always always make 70 excuses for our brothers and sisters.

May Allah forgive me if I said anything in error,

Asalaamu alikum,

~Jennifer

Is it allowed for a Muslim woman to marry a Muslim man who embraced Islam simply..... - Dan - 05-31-2004

Bismillah

How can that be when she was only calling herself a muslim and never did even one act of worship?

Regardless, I was only sharing my experience to help others be wary in their quest for a suitable spouse because it is my experience that people will pretend to be a certain way just to be with someone they desire. Fortunately, you take the chance to not only try to insult Islam but me as well. What high moral character you have.

I have many things running through my mind and Alhamdulillah you did not say something like this to my face because that would have been an even greater test in patience for me. I will end by saying that I pray that Allah will Guide you.

Is it allowed for a Muslim woman to marry a Muslim man who embraced Islam simply..... - Muslimah - 05-31-2004

Quote:BismillahAs salam alaikum

I am going to get a divorce for this very reason.

Brothers beware!

As salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu

La hawala wala qowata ila billah, hold on Dan, may Allah put this test in the balance of your good deeds..

Is it allowed for a Muslim woman to marry a Muslim man who embraced Islam simply..... - NaSra - 06-01-2004

Quote:La hawala wala qowata ila billah, hold on Dan, may Allah put this test in the balance of your good deeds..

Ameen ya rab'aLimeen

Quote:I just think that instead of saying, \"we will put you to a test, and if you go back to your old religion, you will be killed.\"

Walaykuma salam warah matulahi wabarakatu

First of all, I didn't write any of the things I posted on this thread expect the last paragraph, I made very clear when I added " I also would like to add" Everything from that point on forward were my opinions & thoughts. I posted a fatwa up there from www.sunnipath.com .The quote that had the word killing in it wasn't a quote that I personaly put together either, those were the words of our beloved prophet mohamed Alaihi-salatu-wasalam. What you suggested about the community being there and providing support for the new convert was a great advice MashaAllah, but we are not talking about the seekers of truth, we are talking about people who will do just about anything to appear as likable to you as possible I.e. even accepting a religion they don't want. Allah has created all kinds of people, those who have a sincere intention and some that have the wrong intentions.

My brother has been on the receiving end once, alhamdulilah he never married her, but she was ready to lie even in his face. We are not kafirs, we get married to get closer to Allah, to fulfill our Imaan, to be more righteous. To raise Mujahideen one day. No way can that be achieved with a person who doesn't view this world as we do. It takes two right minded, God conscious people to raise a good muslim. About the "tests" that the sheikh talked about, I absolutely agree with his points. Marriage is one of the most important events in a person's life. The person that one marries ultimately affects our whole entire life. It is critical that we have an understanding with that person. One should know how the other person thinks and views this world, and if their views conflict with ours, it will be a problem.

Back to Brother Dan, I pray that Allah gives you a good pious wife, ameen. Allah is the hakeeem, you have so much to be thankful for MashaAllah.

Let me share this hadeeth with you:

Abu Hurayrah (radiallaahu anhu) reported that the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) said: 

\" Whenever Allah wills good for a person, He subjects him to adversity\" [ Bukharee and others ] 

When Allah takes something away from you, He compensates you with something better InshaALlah something that will put a smile on your face will come out of the hardship you are facing. :smilingfl [Image: smile.gif]

Is it allowed for a Muslim woman to marry a Muslim man who embraced Islam simply..... - Muslimah - 06-02-2004

As salam alykom Intution

I am not here to reply on Jennifer's behalf, however, I think I can understand her point.

Just refer to the incident when one of the companions (can not recall his name now) killed a kafir during a battle after he pronounced shahada. The Messenger became very upset and kept blaming him did u kill someone who said La ilaha ila Allah, and the companion said he only said it to rescue himself for I was in a position that allows me easily to kill him.

The Messenger (salla Allah a`alyhee wa salam) said did u open his heart (lietrally in Arabic) did u slit his heart. In an implication of did u open his heart to know his niyah. The Messenger (salla Allah a`alyhee wa salam) kept repeating it until the companion said I wished I never embraced Islam before this incident.

Intution, I know what u r talking about and I know people who went into similar marriages, people like us raised Muslims can not help but to always look at this with skipticism. But just look at this incident and I am sure you will understand the point.