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Simple Explanation To Pii - Muslimah - 09-27-2004
as salam alykom
PII put some very interesting questions on another thread. We saw to dedicate a special thread to Insh a Allah try and reply to his inquiries. I do seek Allah’s close guidance and support to be able to explain the needed points.
Insh a Allah we will try to give him a reply:
Here are his points:
I don't really believe in death. Nor birth for that matter. I mean, I was never really born. I was a foetus, which was an embryo, which was an egg, which was created when my mother was a foetus, etc. So when I die, I won't really die. I will rot and become eaten by worms and such, thus feeding them and giving them strength to make new life, which will repeate until the United States destroys the earth with nuclear weapons ;-)
Ok, so the United States thing was a joke (a dark joke at that), but the rest is basically true. It's a very buddhist perspective.
If someone wouldn't mind, could you explain (in stupid American speak) the fundamental Muslim belief in death? Or provide me with a link if the basics have already been covered on thie forum? Jolly good then. Cheerio!
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Just as u mentioned, if we are going to talk about the end, we must first look at the beginning.
One starts life exactly as u said as a fetus (a conceived egg) in the mother’s womb. At the age of around 12 weeks, Allah S&T instills the soul into the fetus that is when it starts moving.
At this age, Allah also Sends an angle to record the full profile of the creature. Such as whether believer or non believer, rich or poor, happy or unhappy, and so forth.
The soul actually is the source of life, that is why when it is blown into the fetus, it starts moving and continues to develop, forming limbs, body organs step by step till the embryo is fully grown and ready to come into this world.
Then as u know one comes to life through the delivery process of the mother.
When the time of the person comes, as recorded in Allah’s main ledger (actually it has a special term but I am using this to simplify matters to u), one starts suffering stupor of death, let us call it the departure of the soul.
Actually, it is a departure of the soul which does not die itself, it does not eliminate. When time comes, one suffers different symptoms indicating the pulling out of the soul from the body.
Being the source of life, in other words this ambiguous item which makes all body organs function and is not known to any of us but still leads all vital operations of the body, the organs begin to stop one after the other. Usually the departure of the soul begins from the feet.
Depending on the status of the person, whether a believer or not, the stupor is either painful or smooth.
At this point, the truth is revealed to the person, he/she sees the angle assigned to collect the soul either in a cheerful nice image or a dreadful frightening one.
The angle begins collecting the soul as I said starting from the feet and takes it up through the skies to check its position again depending on the final destination one prepared for.
It is then brought back to the body till it goes into the grave. After being into the grave, the soul is taken into a different world. I call it the waiting area. Sort of a no man’s zone where all of our souls will be waiting for the Day of Judgment.
We can easily say that the soul does not die, or eliminate, but rather only the envelope that is keeping it from meeting the Lord is taken off.
It is set free to wait where Allah Commands it till the time comes.
When the time comes, souls will be returned back to the bodies in their graves, by the Will of Allah of course.
We will resurrect from our graves in a major panic and wait for the judgment.
I was brief and simple as much as possible.
Hope I helped if u need any further explanation, will be more than happy to give. Or if my brothers and sisters have more to say pls do.
Simple Explanation To Pii - Muslimah - 09-28-2004
However, technically speaking when the soul leaves the body, of course the body no longer functions. All vital operations stop which is referred to as death of body. Yet we can call it an end yes but concurrently the beginning of the eternal life just as the above hadeeth explains. When we all Shall stand before our Lord to be judged, then directed to the final destination, may Allah Makes it Jannah (paradise), we will be there eternally. No more death.
Simple Explanation To Pii - umm Zachariah - 09-28-2004
Assalamu aleikum,
Nothing to add for now, mashaAllah sister Muslimah you explained it in such a simple way and yet so clarifying.
If PII will take it from here, inshaAllah we will give our support for a continuing and deeper understanding.
Wasalam
Simple Explanation To Pii - Muslimah - 09-28-2004
Jazaki Allah khairan Umm Zachriah Insh a Allah we will wait for PII to give his feedback.
Simple Explanation To Pii - Peace in Ireland - 09-28-2004
That was actually extremely usefull and easy to understand. Three cheers for Muslimah.
I didn't know about what "waiting area" in Islam. Very interesting. Catholics believe in purgetory which is kind of a waiting area where you go if you had some sins, but we're really that bad. Or non-baptised, but still a good person. Anyway, yeah, thanks for all the info, though I feel a bit embarrased having a whole thread devoted to me.
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One more question, just to clarify. WHat if someone is a really really good person, but just doesn't happen to believe that Mohammed was the messenger of god. Can they still get in to heaven?
Simple Explanation To Pii - Muslimah - 09-28-2004
PII u should not feel a bit embarrased
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. We are here to do our job as required to Alalh, since u r seeking knowledge. We must give. Alhamdulelah that was useful. I dont claim any credit in this, It is all from and to Allah S&T.Now as far as the waiting area, it has nothing to do with the catholic concept of purgetory. That is totally a different topic which may take us out of this. I am more than ready to explain it if u wish so.
However, this waiting area is part of the unknown. We only know that it is just a sort of a time zone. Souls wait there till the Day of Resurrection, when we will all be called to return to our bodies to resurrect and face the truth PII.
As for a good person but not believing in Prophet Mohamed salla Allah A`alyhee wa sallam. And Allah Knows best they receive their reward here in this life, or else Allah Wont Be Fair and He is the Just. But on the Day After, that is it. Allah Allowed them every chance to learn, Allah Didnt hide info from them, Sent them Prophets and Messengers, Explained to them. Allah Was also so Patient with them, He didnt clap down the skies on them. U simply dont know how much Allah Is eager for all of us to believe.
Any way not to go off topic. They receive their reward here in this life, but can not go to heavens.
Most welcome Peace and ready for more if u wish...
Simple Explanation To Pii - radiyah - 10-01-2004
Alsalam 'alaykom
Masha'Allah sister Muslimah, Jazzaky Allah khayr, I hope that PII now beleives in death and angels
Wasalam
Simple Explanation To Pii - shameem - 10-30-2004
to muslimah- does it not say somewhere in quran that the soul comes out of the throat. "when the soul of the dying man reaches his throat". i dont know the exact surah.
Simple Explanation To Pii - umm Zachariah - 10-30-2004
Assalamu aleikum,
Sorry for rushing in, I have not 'seen' Muslimah today, and felt like answering. Hope that is ok.
''Then why do ye not (intervene) when (the soul of the dying man) reaches the throat,-'' The Qur'an 56:83
Wasalam
Simple Explanation To Pii - Muslimah - 10-30-2004
Bismillah
as salam alykom
well here I am Umm Zachria dearest.
Brother shameem, the Ayah posted by Umm of course is the one u referred to. However, as u may have noticed, on this thread in particular we intended to be very simply and to the point for PII and similar members to grasp the info easily.
The Ayah will take us to more technical details that may make such members loose the points.