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Lies About Jesus (as) - Rehmat - 10-28-2004


If a Jewish text mentions that Jesus (as) was supposed to be, or claimed to be God, that information was certainly obtained by Jews via Christians and Christian traditions and dogma, which had had centuries to develop, and not directly through any historical events, nor as we have seen, even from the New Testament, which Jews would certainly not waste their time studying, unless arming themselves for polemical disputes. There is absolutely no reliable independent historical evidence to be found concerning Jesus in Jewish tradition, as it is all late material, set down long after the Christians themselves had already decided to make Jesus (as) into their God.


Many Christian apologists, for example, like to take the reference to Jesus (as) in Tacitus as independent proof of his existence, when in fact, with its late date, it merely supplies proof that Christians existed, along with their beliefs and dogma, which were hardly a secret ... not that I am denying Jesus (as) existence!


For example, the great missionary, Shamoun writes:


Christian Author Michael Green quotes a rabbi named Eliezar, writing about AD 160, who writes:


"God saw that a man, son of a woman, was to come forward in the future, who would attempt to make himself God and lead the whole world astray. And if he says he is God he is a liar. And he will lead men astray, and say that he will depart and will return at the end of days." (Green, Who is this Jesus?)


Rabbi Eliezer ha-Kappar said: God gave strength to his (Balaam's) voice so that it went from one end of the world to the other, because he looked forth and beheld the nations that bow down to the sun and moon and stars, and to wood and stone, and he looked forth and saw that there was a man, born of a woman, who should rise up and seek to make himself God, and to cause the whole world to go astray. Therefore God gave power to the voice of Balaam that all the peoples of the world might hear, and thus he spake: Give heed that ye go not astray after that man, for is written, 'God is not a man that he should lie.' And if he says that he is God, he is a liar; and he will deceive and say that he departed and cometh again at the end. He saith and he shall not perform. See what is written: And he took up his parable and said, 'Alas, when God doeth this.' Balaam said, Alas, who shall live- of what nation which heareth that man who hath made himself God." (Yalkut Shimeon, according to Midrash Y'lamm'denue) [Image: rolleyes.gif]


Muslims don’t have to ‘dip so low’ to prove the existence of Jesus (as). Muslims believe in Jesus’ existence, because God’s Final Testament (Holy Qur’an) says so.




Lies About Jesus (as) - Rehmat - 10-28-2004


Now here are some strange lies attributed to Jesus (as)


According to Gospel Mark 16:17-18, there are following five signs that accompany those who believe in, have been baptized, and recite Lord’s Prayer


1. “In my name (Christ), they will cast out demons”


I have never seen this happen, except in Hollywood or on Benny Hill TV show.


2. “They will speak with new tongues”


Acts 2:4-11; 1 Corinthians 13:1 explain that:


“The individuals who utter unintelligible syllables during church and synagogue services are not following the precise teachings of their Old and New Testament with regard to “speaking in tongues,” but, rather they are consciencly or unconsciencly trying to reassure themselves and others that they are “filled with spirit”.


3. “They will pick up serpents”


It is a fact that the Jew who began a sect of Christianity that involved the handling of serpents, himself died from snake bites,


4. “If they drank any deadly poison it shall not hurt them”


Now, I like challenge the ADL-hackers – if anyone of them dare to try this trick – after offering his/her/whatever’s Lord Prayer!


5. “They will lay hands on the sick and they will recover”


One doesn’t need Benny Hill or Lord’s Prayer to achieve that. I have heard it happen to Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Catholics, Protestants, Atheists and Agnostics. These events have happened sometimes with, sometimes without prayer or laying on of hands