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Polygamy - Among Muslims And Westerns - Rehmat - 12-31-2004
Judo-Christianity doctrine invented ideas that women were "full of sin" and man was better off to "never marry." Since this would be the end of mankind, these same people compromised and said "marry only one."
However, here are three kinds of polygamy practiced in Western societies:
1.Serial polygamy, that is, marriage, divorce, marriage, divorce and so on any number of times.
2.A man married to one woman but having and supporting one or more mistresses.
3.An unmarried man having a number of mistresses.
Islam condones but discourages the first and forbids the other two.
Wars cause the number of women to greatly exceed the number of men (as happened in Europe and especially in Germany after WW II). In a monogamous society these women, left without husbands or support, resort to prostitution, illicit relationships with married men resulting in illegitimate children with no responsibility on the part of the father, or lonely spinsterhood or widowhood (which is despised both in Judaism and Christianity).
Some Western men take the position that monogamy protects the rights of women. But are these men really concerned about the rights of women? The society has many practices that exploit and suppress women, leading to women’s liberation movements from the suffragettes of the early twentieth century to the feminists of today.
The truth of the matter is that monogamy protects men, allowing them to " play around" without responsibility. Easy birth control and easy legal abortion has opened the door of illicit sex to women and she has been lured into the so-called sexual revolution. But she is still the one who suffers the trauma of abortion and the side effects of birth control methods.
The present Western society, which permits free sex between consenting adults, has given rise to an abundance of irresponsible sexual relationships, an abundance of "fatherless" children, many unmarried teenage mothers; all becoming a burden on the country’s welfare system. In part, such an undesirable welfare burden has given rise to bloated budget deficits, which even an economically powerful country like the United States cannot accommodate. Bloated budget deficits have become a political football, which is affecting the political system of the United States.
In short, we find that artificially created monogamy has become a factor in ruining the family structure, and the social, economic and political systems of the country. In Islam a pious family life is one of the greatest virtue – That’s why the immoral Western elite take it a threat to their domination of the world.
Polygamy - Among Muslims And Westerns - Shereen - 01-12-2005
How unfair and wrong !
Polygamy - Among Muslims And Westerns - umm Zachariah - 01-12-2005
Assalamu aleikum,
Just want to add, that to statistics I have read pologamy among muslims is 2 percent. I don't know how accurate that figure is. Does anyone have another figure and is ther any figure of the percentage of men and women having affairs outside the non-Muslim marriage? Of course that could be difficult to attain, since this is business done that one should not be proud of.
But one thing to bear in mind is that taking another wife as a Muslim man is connected with big RESPONSIBILITY, both emotionally and economically and should surely be one reason for not being practiced much. While having affairs outside marrige that result in children or not, does not bring with it much responsibility. And besides that, it is something that is done WITHOUT the consent of the other part in marriage.
Wasalam
Polygamy - Among Muslims And Westerns - Rehmat - 01-12-2005
Quote:Assalamu aleikum,
Just want to add, that to statistics I have read pologamy among muslims is 2 percent. I don't know how accurate that figure is. Does anyone have another figure and is ther any figure of the percentage of men and women having affairs outside the non-Muslim marriage? Of course that could be difficult to attain, since this is business done that one should not be proud of.
But one thing to bear in mind is that taking another wife as a Muslim man is connected with big RESPONSIBILITY, both emotionally and economically and should surely be one reason for not being practiced much. While having affairs outside marrige that result in children or not, does not bring with it much responsibility. And besides that, it is something that is done WITHOUT the consent of the other part in marriage.
Wasalam
Polygamy among Muslims varies from culture to culture - less among the secularist controlled societies than the others. For example in India, in the 1990s, the polygamy practiced among the Muslims was 4.1% while among the Hindus it was 5.3%; in Turkey, it is one of the lest, while among African Muslims it is more. However, according to Muslim sources, over world-wide it could not be more than 2%.
On the other hand, polygamy is very common among the Christia sects like Mormons. In the rest of the Christian World - Europe and the US, though monogamy is legally enforced - but the 'side dish sex' is very common among the married couples, both men and women. According to the American Churches Study 2000 - nearly 60% of Judo-Christian married couples were involved 'in some kind' of sex affair while married! That reminds me of the 'great statement' made by my young Jew associate:
"Why one has to buy a cow (marry), when he is only interested in drinking milk (sex)."
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Polygamy - Among Muslims And Westerns - laian - 01-13-2005
Quote:On the other hand, polygamy is very common among the Christia sects like Mormons.
Not that I am defending Mormons or anything, but I just feel I should correct misinformation when I see it. I used to be Mormon, and they *officially* do not believe in nor practice polygamy any longer. A long time ago they did, very widely and very hugely (some men were known to have 70 or more wives at one time, very sick). But for at least the last 30 or more years, they have officially denounced it and it is not longer condoned by the Mormon church.
There are some Mormons who do practice it anyway, but it would be a very small percentage.
Quote:"Why one has to buy a cow (marry), when he is only interested in drinking milk (sex)."
I've heard that as, "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free." Referring to how easy it is to get a girlfriend or boyfriend these days, and nobody thinks anything of breaking up, there is no legal or moral responsibility connected to such relationships. It's sad, isn't it?
Polygamy - Among Muslims And Westerns - Rehmat - 01-13-2005
Asslam-o-Aliakum
Quote:Not that I am defending Mormons or anything, but I just feel I should correct misinformation when I see it. I used to be Mormon, and they *officially* do not believe in nor practice polygamy any longer. A long time ago they did, very widely and very hugely (some men were known to have 70 or more wives at one time, very sick). But for at least the last 30 or more years, they have officially denounced it and it is not longer condoned by the Mormon church.
Your statement proves that Mormons, like the rest of Christians are following a 'religion' which is not 'divine' but has been MODIFIED to suit its dlerics. However, there is no use denying the fact that the US government allows them, as in the case of Orthodox Jews to practice polygamy. Also don't forget that polygamy was allowed by the Church till 16th century CE. And in Israel, Rabbanic laws still allow them to have more than one wife, plus concubines.
Quote:I've heard that as, "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free." Referring to how easy it is to get a girlfriend or boyfriend these days, and nobody thinks anything of breaking up, there is no legal or moral responsibility connected to such relationships. It's sad, isn't it?
My 'pharase' had the same meaning - but that's called western freedom or Betty Friedan's feminism which along with Communism is funded by the Jewish Rothschild cabal of City of London and use them to undermine the political and cultural institutions of Western Civilization.
Rockefeller-Rothschild cartels own most of the world and naturally assume they should control it too. They own most of our politicians, media and educators. Their goal is a "new world order" (a.k.a. "globalization") in which they remake mankind to fit their nefarious ends.
Polygamy - Among Muslims And Westerns - Rehmat - 01-14-2005
Quote:Couldn't help yourself, had to be the jews. Seems to me you may have been reading some David Icke along the way, he is a big proponent of the Illuminati/Rothschild conspiracy theory.
Geee, I wonder this Christian with his 'skull-cap' hidden in his/her pocket knows Gloria Steinem - another Jew communist Feminist and lesbian?
No dude, I never read your 'Ike brother' (though I would like to read him now).
However, I always love to read my professor Henry Markow, Ph.D at Calgary University
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Polygamy - Among Muslims And Westerns - umm Zachariah - 01-14-2005
Assalamu aleikum,
Sorry to interrupt this - but am just wondering if the last posts are relavant when it concerns the subject here, polygamy, as a comparision?
Polygamy - Among Muslims And Westerns - Rehmat - 01-14-2005
Quote:Assalamu aleikum,
Sorry to interrupt this - but am just wondering if the last posts are relavant when it concerns the subject here, polygamy, as a comparision?
Asslam-o-Alikum
I fully agree - though I would not let a "skull-cap Christian" to go free as they do in the US, while nearlly 1000 Muslims are in the US jail for no crimes whatsoever.
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As far as I am concerned, some Moderator may delete both of them.
Wa Salaam.
Polygamy - Among Muslims And Westerns - Rehmat - 01-14-2005
Quote:How unfair and wrong !
Asslam-o-Aliakum
How true - But in the West "Everything is Kosher in love and war", especially, when it comes to lying against its 'adversaries'
"The West misunderstands Islam largely because we’ve got a deep cultural prejudice that is as deeply ingrained as our anti-Semitism, which developed alongside it from about the time of the Crusades. We’ve got into the habit of projecting our own shortcomings onto Islam, just as we did upon the Jews.
Sexual repression is just one issue the West projects upon Islam. Class and gender also take on this distortion. Armstrong continues, "At a time in the Middle Ages when Europe was extremely hierarchical, we blamed Islam for giving too much power to menials like slaves and women. Today we’ve thrown that off and we blame Islam for being oppressive to women. Again, we’ve reversed the old stereotype, not because we’ve found out anything about Islam necessarily, but because we’ve got into a cultural habit of making Islam the opposite of us." - Says the celebrated British Christian Theologist (Nun for 20 years), and historian Karen Armstrong).
Wa Salaam