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Ustadh Abdullah responds to AminaWadud controversy - Tariqulislam1 - 03-13-2005


As-Salaamu-Alaikum


Are women allowed to lead men in Salaat? Is there any foundation


for this in Islamic law? Ustadh Abdullah provides a detailed and


vigorous response to this controversial issue with clear proofs!!


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Question:


Why cant muslims get with the modern times and allow women to


lead in prayer? Dr. Amina Wadud, professor of Islamic studies at


Virginia Commonwealth University, will be the first woman to lead a


public, mixed-gender Friday prayer in the modern day. Is there any


possible objection you can have to this historic event?


Ustadh Abdullah's Response:


Can a Woman Lead Men in Salat?


Let's get right to the point.


The first problem with this scheduled event is that the theme


is `Muslim Women Reclaim Right to Lead Prayer,' while it should


read `Muslim Women Claim Right to Lead Prayer,' since there is no


basis for the belief that it was ever a right for women to lead a


mixed-group prayer. And there are no explicit accounts of women ever


leading a mixed-group of men and women in prayer.


Three of the four Sunni Schools of law (Hanafis, Shafi'is, and


Hanbalis) permit for a woman to lead other women in prayer except


that the one leading is not to stand out in front of the row.[1]


Rather, she is to remain aligned in a single row with the other


women, so as not to appear to be leading as a man would. They base


this on the following reports:


1- Imam Baihaqi, Daraqutni, and Ibn Abi Shayba report from


Ra'ita Al-Hanafiyya that she said: "'Aisha led us. And she stood


between us during the obligatory prayer."


2- Ibn Abi Shayba and `Abdur-Razzaq Al-San'ani report by way of


Hujayra bint Husayn that she said: "Umm Salama led us in Salatul-


`Asr. And she stood between us."[2]


Imam Al-Nawawwi says about these two hadiths, Daraqutni and Baihaqi


related them with sahih chains.[3]


As for Imam Malik and the popular view held in the Maliki School,


any prayer that a woman leads others in – whether women, men, or


mixed – is invalid. Ali ibn Abi Talib is reported to have said, "The


woman is not to lead (Salat)."[4] This was also the view of Sulaiman


ibn Yasar and Al-Hasan Al-Basari.[5]


As for the other three schools, their position in general[6] was


that it is permitted for women to lead other women in Salat.


As for the cause of this disagreement, we can reasonably say that it


is the direct result of the different views of the Sahaba, in so


much as that 3 of the Imams adopted the views of Umm Salama


and `Aisha who were both wives of the Prophet – while Imam Malik and


those who held the same view accepted the report of `Ali ibn Abi


Talib -.


If we were Hanafis, it would be easy to resolve this matter by just


having everyone follow the particular Companion's opinion we deem


most worthy of following.


If one is a Maliki, it would similarly seem easy to resolve by just


ascertaining that there was a consensus found among the scholars of


Medinah during Malik's time that went contrary to these hadiths


supported by the majority.


But if a Muslim is one who champions the hadith of the Prophet and


doesn't place anything over it – as is the view of Shafi'i and


Ahmad, the solution would seem easy to resolve by simply relying on


the most authentic report found that demonstrates what the Prophet's


sunnah was in this regard, since it is possible that some Sahaba


heard what others may have not.


So after searching, we find that the strongest report found that


goes back to the Prophet is the following:


Abu Dawud reports that Umm Waraqa y said, "I said: "O Messenger of


Allah! Permit for me to participate in the raid with you. I'll nurse


your sick. Perhaps Allah will grant me martyrdom." He said: "Remain


in your house. For verily Allah I will grant you martyrdom." And she


asked his permission to take a muadhdhin in her home. And he allowed


her."


In another version Abu Dawud reports: "The Messenger of Allah e used


to visit her in her house. And he assigned to her a muadhdhin who


would make the summons to prayer (adhan) for her. And he ordered her


to lead the inhabitants of her home."


The hadith was reported by Baihaqi, Daraqutni, and Hakim. And Hakim


said, "Muslim advanced Al-Walid ibn Jami' (one of the narrators) as


being authoritative.[7] But this is a hadith with a single chain of


narration (sunnah ghariba). I don't know of any hadith with a


connected chain to the Prophet (musnad) in this chapter other than


this one." And Imam Dhahabi concurred with his findings[8].


Al-Mundhiri said, "Al-Walid ibn Jami' is the subject of dispute


(fihi maqal). And Muslim has reported through him." Ibn Al-Qattan


said, "Al-Walid's state isn't known."[9] Ibn Hibban mentioned him in


(his book) Al-Thiqat (Trustworthy Narrators).[10] And Ibn Hajar


said, "In its chain is `Abdur-Rahman ibn Khallad (a second


questionable narrator). And his status is unknown (fihi jahala)."


If this is true in that this report has two suspect narrators, Al-


Walid ibn Jami' and `Abdur-Rahman ibn Khallad, then this hadith


can't really have much if any authority.


And if it had not been for its weakness, it could be used by those


who argue for the right of women leading men in prayer to support


their argument even though the indications in the hadith are very


subtle. That is, the fact that it states that the Prophet – assigned


a muadhdhin for her and then ordered her to lead those in her house


in prayer, gives the impression that she led at least one man in


prayer who was likely a bondsman or unmarriageable relative of hers,


since she would only be allowed to keep the company of a bondsman or


a male relative, and men are usually those who make the call to


prayer.


One could just as well assume that the muadhdhin appointed by


Allah's Messenger e while presuming the hadith is authentic – was


another woman, and that Umm Waraqa led a group of women in prayer as


the other authentic reports make clear.[11]


But all of this is overshadowed by the weakness of the hadith. So it


falls as a basis for argument.


Another important point is that Imam Abu Ja'far Ibn Jarir Al-Tabari


(died 310 AH) held the view that a woman could lead Salat in spite


of it being a view never accepted by the Ummah, and it has never


been witnessed in all of Islamic history.[12]


Imam Al-Tabari was an absolute mujtahid and is known as the Imam of


the Exegetes (Mufassirin). But his school didn't thrive and it


didn't last as the 4 surviving schools did. So his view is extremely


ancient and contradicts what the Ummah later unanimously agreed upon


in that a woman cannot lead a man in prayer.


Add to that, it would difficult to know what exactly Imam Al-Tabari


based his ijtihad on today, since his school hasn't been preserved


with an unbroken chain as the 4 schools have. So are we to accept


his opinion just because it was an opinion without proper scrutiny


and research?


Furthermore, what lends to the understanding that a woman's proper


place is not leading a man in prayer are the following:


- If it was permissible, it would have been reported from


the Salaf.


- Since the Sunnah for women in prayer is for them to be


behind the men, it is known from that that it is not permitted for


them to be in front of them. For Abdullah bin Mas'ud said: "Put them


back to where Allah put them back." Al-San'ani and Tabarani reported


it. It is also mentioned in Majma' Al-Zawa'id. And for that reason,


some of the allowed them to lead other women, since they are all to


align straight in one row.


- The Prophet also said, "The best ranks of the men are


those at the front. And the worst of them are those at the back. And


the best ranks of the women are those at the back. And the worst of


them are those at the front."


And if the Messenger – had intended any other arrangement for women


in Salat, then we would have found him at least on one occasion


allow the women to pray directly behind him or for a woman to lead


the men in Salat.


So we are to understand that this is from the divinely inspired


direction of the Creator. And to contravene it would be to question


His wisdom. And to question His wisdom, would be to follow in the


footsteps on Satan. And to follow in the footsteps of Satan, one is


surely to be damned as he is.


So it becomes clear that such people who insist on the


permissibility of a woman leading men in prayer have nothing firm to


rely on in their position other than the following of their fancies


and what their lusts dictate to them.


The Issue of Apostasy


The next important question would be, are such people Muslims who


contravene the consensus of the Ummah, which upholds that a woman


leading men in prayer is prohibited?


The short answer is, no! But that `no' is a `no' that doesn't remove


the danger from being damned by the Almighty One.


In other words, the decisive consensus for Sunnis cannot be


violated. Were one to contravene that consensus, he/she would be


considered an apostate from Islam.


But this consensus is one that occurred after a well-known


disagreement due to the view of Al-Tabari and Abu Thawr. And


scholars have differed about whether or not contravening this kind


of consensus is enough to expel a person beyond the pale of Islam.


[13]


One can also reply that the Shiites do not consider consensus to


have the same authority that Sunnis do. And they do not accept it.


But we can reply that in spite of that Shiites do not allow for


women to lead men in prayer. So even though they may not consider it


to be a valid source of law, their practice shows that they share


with Sunnis in their traditional belief that a woman may not lead


the Jumu'a prayer or any other prayer for that matter unless it be a


woman leading other women in a prayer that is not Jumu'a.


So even if Shiites don't accept scholarly consensus as a valid


source of law, they do accept that Allah says in the Qur'an,


"Whoever splits from the Messenger after guidance has become clear


to him, and then follows other than the way of the believers, We


will turn him to what he has turned, and enter him into Hell. And


how evil a destination!"


[4:115]


And it is the way of the believers that from the time of the Prophet


e until now that no woman has ever been reported leading the Jumu'a


Prayer, Eid Prayer, or any other prayer when those being led were a


mix of men and women.


In the end, I seriously doubt that many people will be in attendance


at this event, at least not many real men or women.


We know that the enemies of Islam have many tactics they use in


trying to get a misdirected and emotional response out of the


Muslims. And perhaps they do that in order to produce a situation


where they can justify taking action against those they label as


extremists, radicals, terrorists, and fundamentalists.


I think that if people want to make up their own religion, let them


do as they like. We just ask them to give us a little respect and


not call it Islam, and don't call themselves Muslims. That's all.


Was Salam


Abdullah bin Hamid Ali


Ustadh Abdullah bin Hamid Ali is the first American to attend and


graduate from the University of Al- Qarawiyeen's Faculty of Shariah


The focus of his study was the understanding of the science of fiqh,


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scholars of Islam including Dr Abdullah Ghaazeewee, Professor of


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Professor of Usool Al-Fiqh, Sheikh Muhammad Al-Ghaazee Husainee,


Grand Muftee of Morocco and Professor of Al-Fiqh Al-Muqaaran, Sheikh


Ahmad Zweetin, Professor of Fiqhul-Hadeeth and many others!


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Footnotes:


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[1] This was also the view of Imams Awza'i and Thawri.


[2] Ibn Abi Shayba also reports from Umm Al-Hasan that she saw Umm


Salama lead the women. And she would stand with them in their rank.


[3] Al-Majmu' li al-Nawawwi: 4/173.


[4] Imam Sahnun reported it in Al-Mudawwana Al-Kubra from Ibn Wahb


from Ibn Abi Dhi'b from a client of Banu Hashim from `Ali ibn Abi


Talib that he said: "The women is not to lead." [Al-Mudawwana: 1/85]


[5] Al-Majmu' li Al-Nawawwi: 4/173.


[6] Abu Hanifa's view was that it was permitted but with dislike [Al-


Majmu': 4/173].


[7] Just because Imam Muslim relates a hadith on the authority of a


suspect narrator doesn't automatically make that narrator's reports


acceptable in other places, because Imam Muslim merely relates a


report from such a narrator when there are other versions of the


same report that strengthen it.


[8] Imam Hakim Al-Nisapuri has a book he wrote entitled `Al-


Mustadrak', which contains a number of hadiths that fulfill the


conditions of the Sahihs of Imams Bukhari and Muslim that neither of


them reported in their two books. But after the scholars had a close


look at Al-Mustadrak they found that many of the claims made by Imam


Hakim weren't true. For that reason, his claims of the hadiths


reported in that book are usually not accepted unless Imam Dhahabi


concurs with his findings.


[9] To be unknown (majhul) is of two kinds according to the scholars


of hadith. 1) To be an unknown person altogether (majhul al-`ayn),


and 2) to be of unknown status (majhul al-hal) such that a person


may be known but his character and memory will be unknown. Refer to


the books related to the science of hadith like Suyuti's Tadrib Al-


Rawi Sharh Taqrib Al-Nawawi.


[10] Simply to be mentioned in a book dedicated to trustworthy


narrators doesn't render a narrator to be trustworthy, because many


times the author will mention a kind of narrator whose mention


wasn't the original intent of the work. Add to that, a hadith isn't


authenticated just because its narrators are trustworthy.


[11] One might respond that the word used in the hadith was


muadhdhin – for the male – not `muadhdhinah' – for the female. So it


is clear that it was a male. If someone says this, we can respond by


saying two things: 1) Sometimes the male is used and the female is


intended as in most of the verses of the Qur'an and the hadiths, for


example, the hadith that states, "None of you will believe until he


loves for his brother what he loves for his self." Are we to assume


this hadith doesn't apply to women? 2) is that even if we accept


that the muadhdhin was male, the hadith is still not clear in that


he participated in the prayer, since it is possible that all he did


was call the adhan and then leave the room or the house.


[12] Bidaya al-Mujtahid: 1/206. Abu Thaur also held this view.


[13] Refer to Tuhfat Al-Murid Sharh Jawharat Al-Tawhid of Baijuri




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By: Abdus Sattar Ghazali


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March 18th marks the first anniversary of formal release of the Rand Corporation report on Islam, entitled Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources, and Strategies.


The report has two fold agenda: 1. Try to create a version of Islam that suits the post 9/11 western agenda. 2. Creating divisions in the Muslim society at home and abroad.


The Rand Report recipe to achieve this objective is to encourage and promote the so-called modernist Muslims and play one section of the society against another to split the society. In another report released in December 2004, the Rand Corporation elaborated on the second point and recommended playing the two major Muslim sects Sunnis and Shiites against each other to achieve policy objects.


We are not sure what impact the Rand report has on the 1.5 billion Muslims living in independent Muslim countries as well as minorities in many other countries.


However, we can see some reaction in the American Muslim community where the so called progressive or modern Muslims are trying to benefit from the current atmosphere of fear and siege caused by the arbitrary arrests, FBI interviews, racial profiling, surveillance of their mosques, closing down of Islamic charities and constant anti-Islam and anti-Muslim propaganda in the mainstream media.


We are experiencing the re-emergence of Orientalism of the 19th century aimed at forcing the Muslims living in US to abandon the basic tenets of Islam. This neo-Orientalism is coming in the shape of such research documents as the Rand Report which questions the authenticity of Islam's holy scripture, the Quran. Even a fake version of Quran is now available in print. It was distributed in a private school in Kuwait.


At the same time, we see cropping up of some Muslim groups such as Free Muslims Against Terrorism, Progressive Muslim Union of North America (PMUNA) and Center for Islamic Pluralism which are not only challenging the basic tenets of Islam but also challenging the established Muslim organizations.


Free Muslims Against Terrorism, established by Kamal Nawash who ran for Virginia State Assembly in November 2003 as a Republican candidate. One can well understand his political ambitions and hidden agenda of his organization. Just one example, how it is working against the American Muslim groups. In January this year the Executive Director of Free Muslims Against Terrorism, wrote an e mail to Enver Masud of an Islamic website, Wisdom Foundation, saying: We are very disappointed in your site and it should be taken downÉ. I will recommend to our extremist watch committee that we place your site on our list of extremist sites or sites that support terrorism. Here is the website address of Wisdom Foundation where one can see what kind of message Enver Masud has: www.twf.org


The Progressive Muslim Union of North America (PMUNA) was formed on November 15, 2004 by some professed moderates who embrace the simple proposition that "you are a Muslim if you say you are a Muslim -- for whatever reason or set of reasons -- and that no one is entitled to question or undermine this identity."


The PMUNA is now forcing mainstream Muslim organizations to take positions on even non-issues in order to put them at odds with their own community, and if don't take a position they would be considered as the "bad or extremist" Muslims. Sarah Eltantawi, one of its co-founders is demanding the major Muslim groups and organizations to take position on a non-issue, i.e. if a woman can lead Friday prayers. It is not an uncommon knowledge that the status of woman in Islam is now being used by the West to defame Islam.


"I demand to know where the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), and the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) stands on this issue. I demand to know where the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) stands on this issue. And KARAMAH, the American Sufi Muslim Association, Women in Islam, Azizah Magazine, and other groups who speak for Muslims and Muslim women," Eltantawi asks.


The PMUNA is not alone in working against the major American Muslim organizations. The first goal of Center for Islamic Pluralism established by Stephan Shwartz, a Muslim convert, is the removal of CAIR and ISNA from monopoly status in representing Muslims to the American public because, according to CIP, as long as they retain a major foothold at the highest political level, no progress can be made for moderate American Islam. By the way, Shwartz claims to be a Sufi Muslim and the Rand study recommends promotion of Sufism in Islam for US policy objectives.


The Rand Report is silent on the reasons of discontentment in the Muslim world. The report does not address any of the core issues that are central in developing the perceptions of the Muslim world like; Palestine, Kashmir and Chechnya issues and the exploitative political systems supported by the American or European elites. No reference is made to the West's support for totalitarian secular Muslim regimes, Israel 's endless pogroms against the Palestinians and ethnic cleansing perpetrated against Muslims in Eastern Europe and Chechnya.


A number of recent studies have reaffirmed that the reason for anti-American sentiments in the Muslim masses is because of American policies. Pentagon advisory group, Defense Science Board, in its November 2004 report pointed out that Muslims do not hate our freedom, but rather they hate our policies. "American direct intervention in the Muslim World has paradoxically elevated the stature of and support for radical Islamists, while diminishing support for the United States to single-digits in some Arab societies."


To give a helping held in the daunting task of countering the anti-American sentiments in the Muslim world some Ômoderate' Muslims established the American Muslim Group on Policy Planning (AMGPP) on December 13, 2004. "The AMGPP is willing to play a very active role in helping improve US image and counter the tide of extremism and anti-Americanism in the Muslim World, the AMGPP founder explains. Now one may ask does this group supports Bush administration's policy objects such as the occupation of Iraq, the war against Afghanistan, torture in Guantanamo Bay, Baghram and Abu Ghraib and support of undemocratic Muslim governments.


In this context, I would like to refer to a report "Understanding Islamism" issued earlier this month by the Brussels-based International Crisis Group: "The failure to address the Palestinian question and, above all, the decision to make war on Iraq and the even more extraordinary mishandling of the post-war situation there have unquestionably motivated and encouraged jihadi activism across the Muslim world."


According to the report (the quotation of which does not mean its endorsement), Sunni political Islamism, is definitely modernist in most essential respects, favoring non-violent over violent strategies, open to dialogue and debate and interested in democratic ideas. The report adds: that the West can encourage this evolution. But should it choose to do so, it will need to drop or at least moderate its more activist and interventionist impulses where Muslim countries are concerned, display greater respect for their sovereignty, understand their ambition to renegotiate their relations with it over a range of issues and come to terms with and take account of their viewpoints on the most controversial questions in the current relationship, notably the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Iraq and the modalitie! s of the "war against terrorism" in general.


The report warned that if "moderate" is defined to mean "co-optable", it can only really refer to groups and tendencies which fail to articulate the frustrations and expectations of the mass of "ordinary decent Muslims", have little or no purchase on their political reflexes and will prove unable to promote either significant reform in Muslim countries or a substantive modernization of their cultural and ideological outlook. "Rather than reducing the appeal of extremist currents, the patronizing of "moderates" in this sense by Western governments risks reinforcing it, while undermining the modernist tendency in Sunni Islamism to the benefit of fundamentalists and jihadis," the International Crisis Group report concluded.


Returning to the Rand report, Civil Democratic Islam: partners, resources, strategies, the suggestions of its author, Cheryl Benard, are nothing more than a Machiavellian manifesto that seeks to enforce Western hegemony and cultural imperialism through the policy of "divide and rule." The type of Islam that Benard espouses is a passive and weak Islam that can be easily penetrated and hence reformulated to suit the West's agenda.


The report may be seen as the latest in a long series of policy papers by the "embedded intellectuals" dedicated to further the military and economic objectives of the West as well as cultural onslaught on the Muslims.


In a briefing - entitled Taking Saudi Out of Arabia - given on July 10, 2002 to a the Defense Policy Board, former RAND analyst Laurent Murawiec described Saudi Arabia as the "kernel of evil, the prime mover, the most dangerous opponent" to US interests in the Middle East. He argued that Washington should demand that Saudi Arabia stop supporting "terrorism" or face seizures of its oil fields and its financial assets in the US. Murawiec urged a multi-stage Grand strategy for the Middle East, beginning with Iraq as the tactical pivot, continuing to Saudi Arabia as the strategic pivot and finally to Egypt as the prize.


Abdus Sattar Ghazali is the Executive Editor of the online magazine American Muslim Perspective www.amperspective.com