Facts about the Qur'an - Printable Version

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Facts about the Qur'an - wel_mel_2 - 07-11-2006

Bismillah:

Muslims believe that Prophet Muhammad is not the author of the Quran. God is the author. The following points bear the fact:

1. The Quran itself, at a number of places and in different ways, says it is from God. One of the claim runs thus: "This is indeed a Quran most honourable, a Book well-guarded...a Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds."
(56:77-80)

2. The Prophet did not claim credit for the Quran. Furthermore, the Quran claims: "This Quran is not such as can be produced by anyone other than God."
(10:37)

3. The Prophet was illiterate. He was not a learned man or a philosopher.

4. The Quran took 23 years to complete. Had the verses of the Quran (6,666 altogether) been written by the Prophet, he would have needed editing, updating, etc. He did not have spell-check, thesaurus, etc. Yet all the information in the Quran is consistent and without discrepancies. The verses were taken down as dictate by the Prophet only once and no redrafting, editing or updating took place after that.

5. If the Prophet had written the Quran, he would not have made the challenges that are in the Quran, for fear that the learned Arabs and eminent poets of his time would have taken up his challenges and shamed him. "And if you are in doubt as to what We have revealed (from time to time) to Our servant (Muhammad), then produce a chapter like thereunto..."
(2:23)

6. If the Prophet had written such an inimitable Book of Information and Wisdom without resorting to consultation with prominent scholars and the best books from the best libraries in the world?! If he did this, it would surely have been known, since every move he made was known to people. The Prophet was a historical figure, not a mythological figure. 

7. The Prophet was the busiest most active person in history. So how could he have found the time to write (even if he were educated) such a comprehensive and extensive Book of Guidance which would have needed years of seclusion and concentration to complete? 

8. In Chapter 111, it is mentioned that Abu Lahab, one of the Prophet's uncles who was always against Islam, would never accept Islam. This Revelation came some ten years before the death of Abu Lahab. How could the Prophet have dared to write this chapter because all he (Abu Lahab) needed to do to prove that Quran was not the words of God, was to accept Islam dishonestly?


9. The Prophet was mentioned by name in the Quran only 5 times whereas Jesus Christ's name was (honourably) mentioned 25 times. Could the Prophet go to such an extent of honouring someone more than himself if he had written the Quran? 

10. There is a chapter in the Quran entitled and dedicated to "Mary", the mother of Jesus Christ, while there is no chapter called, or dedicated to, the prophet's own mother, "Amina", or daughter, "Fatima", nor were their names mentioned in the Quran. Could this have happened if the Prophet was the Author of the Quran? 

11. Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ, is glorified in the Quran as "the choses lady above the women of all nations". Why would the Prophet glorify a woman he had never seen and one from another race, saying that she was chosen (by God) above all women, unless the formation of the verses had nothing to do with the Prophet's own authorship but that he only repeated what was inspired to him by God? 

12. In the Quran, God is called "Allah" and (in arabic) he is also referred to by his attributes, like the Cherisher, the Merciful, the Almighty. There are 99 such attributes but none of these is "Abba" (father) by which the Arab Christians of the Prophet's time (and even today) refer to God. If the Prophet was the writer of the Quran, he would surely have used "Abba" as one of the names for God because of its familiarity and also because it was easier to say "Abba" than many of the attributes. 

i hope this would be useful for those who reflect. Ameen.

Salam

Wael.

Facts about the Qur'an - Curious Christian - 07-11-2006

Quote:Bismillah:

Muslims believe that Prophet Muhammad is not the author of the Quran. God is the author. The following points bear the fact:

1. The Quran itself, at a number of places and in different ways, says it is from God. One of the claim runs thus: "This is indeed a Quran most honourable, a Book well-guarded...a Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds."
(56:77-80)

2. The Prophet did not claim credit for the Quran. Furthermore, the Quran claims: "This Quran is not such as can be produced by anyone other than God."
(10:37)

3. The Prophet was illiterate. He was not a learned man or a philosopher.

4. The Quran took 23 years to complete. Had the verses of the Quran (6,666 altogether) been written by the Prophet, he would have needed editing, updating, etc. He did not have spell-check, thesaurus, etc. Yet all the information in the Quran is consistent and without discrepancies. The verses were taken down as dictate by the Prophet only once and no redrafting, editing or updating took place after that.

5. If the Prophet had written the Quran, he would not have made the challenges that are in the Quran, for fear that the learned Arabs and eminent poets of his time would have taken up his challenges and shamed him. "And if you are in doubt as to what We have revealed (from time to time) to Our servant (Muhammad), then produce a chapter like thereunto..."
(2:23)

6. If the Prophet had written such an inimitable Book of Information and Wisdom without resorting to consultation with prominent scholars and the best books from the best libraries in the world?! If he did this, it would surely have been known, since every move he made was known to people. The Prophet was a historical figure, not a mythological figure. 

7. The Prophet was the busiest most active person in history. So how could he have found the time to write (even if he were educated) such a comprehensive and extensive Book of Guidance which would have needed years of seclusion and concentration to complete? 

8. In Chapter 111, it is mentioned that Abu Lahab, one of the Prophet's uncles who was always against Islam, would never accept Islam. This Revelation came some ten years before the death of Abu Lahab. How could the Prophet have dared to write this chapter because all he (Abu Lahab) needed to do to prove that Quran was not the words of God, was to accept Islam dishonestly?


9. The Prophet was mentioned by name in the Quran only 5 times whereas Jesus Christ's name was (honourably) mentioned 25 times. Could the Prophet go to such an extent of honouring someone more than himself if he had written the Quran? 

10. There is a chapter in the Quran entitled and dedicated to "Mary", the mother of Jesus Christ, while there is no chapter called, or dedicated to, the prophet's own mother, "Amina", or daughter, "Fatima", nor were their names mentioned in the Quran. Could this have happened if the Prophet was the Author of the Quran? 

11. Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ, is glorified in the Quran as "the choses lady above the women of all nations". Why would the Prophet glorify a woman he had never seen and one from another race, saying that she was chosen (by God) above all women, unless the formation of the verses had nothing to do with the Prophet's own authorship but that he only repeated what was inspired to him by God? 

12. In the Quran, God is called "Allah" and (in arabic) he is also referred to by his attributes, like the Cherisher, the Merciful, the Almighty. There are 99 such attributes but none of these is "Abba" (father) by which the Arab Christians of the Prophet's time (and even today) refer to God. If the Prophet was the writer of the Quran, he would surely have used "Abba" as one of the names for God because of its familiarity and also because it was easier to say "Abba" than many of the attributes. 

i hope this would be useful for those who reflect. Ameen.

Salam

Wael.

Point number 10 brings up a good question. Why was Jesus, if only another one of God's prophets, born of a virgin? And why was this fact prophisized in scripture before it happened?

Facts about the Qur'an - Dan - 07-11-2006

Bismillah

Allah Created Adam by solely saying, "Be." Does that make Adam God, too?

Facts about the Qur'an - Curious Christian - 07-11-2006

Quote:Bismillah

Allah Created Adam by solely saying, "Be." Does that make Adam God, too?

No it doesn't. I've posted numerous texts which point to the deity of Christ.

Muslims have to accept the fact that Jesus was born of a virgin. How do they explain it? Why wasn't Mohammed, Allah's greatest prophet, born of a virgin?

Facts about the Qur'an - Dan - 07-11-2006

Bismillah

It was a sign of Jesus' prophethood. Muhammad's is the Qur'an. That has also been discussed.

Obviously, the evidence that you bring is not sufficient for me as proof that Jesus is God. Why would not Adam be put into this category? If anyone has the greater claim to divinity and being the son of God then it would be him considering he was the very first man ever. So if God begets then Adam would be the one begotten first. If God cannot say "Be" and have Jesus created then He cannot with Adam.

Why is it so important for christians to have an intermediary between people and God? Why is the christian god so weak that the only way he can forgive sins is to kill part of himself in sacrafice. No person on earth would claim this as justice. If my neighbor stole my car, my killing my son would absolve him of this crime? I am supposed to rely on this sense of justice to save me?

It comes down to people needing to feel like they are like God. "See God sweated and deficated. I'm a child of God." It is just too arrogant to me.

I have once again hijacked a thread... very bad dan.

Facts about the Qur'an - Curious Christian - 07-11-2006

Quote:Bismillah

It was a sign of Jesus' prophethood. Muhammad's is the Qur'an. That has also been discussed.

Obviously, the evidence that you bring is not sufficient for me as proof that Jesus is God. Why would not Adam be put into this category? If anyone has the greater claim to divinity and being the son of God then it would be him considering he was the very first man ever. So if God begets then Adam would be the one begotten first. If God cannot say "Be" and have Jesus created then He cannot with Adam.

Why is it so important for christians to have an intermediary between people and God? Why is the christian god so weak that the only way he can forgive sins is to kill part of himself in sacrafice. No person on earth would claim this as justice. If my neighbor stole my car, my killing my son would absolve him of this crime? I am supposed to rely on this sense of justice to save me?

It comes down to people needing to feel like they are like God. "See God sweated and deficated. I'm a child of God." It is just too arrogant to me.

I have once again hijacked a thread... very bad dan.

Joseph Smith of the Mormons says that his Book of Mormon is proof that he is a prophet too.

I've never heard that Christians are arrogant. Arrogant about what? To be a believer one has to humble himself before the Lord and admit his fault and sin.

Quote:Why is it so important for christians to have an intermediary between people and God?

Because God is perfect and Holy and we are filthy sinful destitute rags.

Facts about the Qur'an - Dan - 07-11-2006

Bismillah

"we are filthy sinful destitute rags"

so this is how humans are defined?

Then in order for Jesus to be FULLY human, he must be this as well. If any part of humanity is not in Jesus, then he is not 100% human.

The book of Mormon's origins are enough to prove to rational people that it was made up by J smith.

Many unique attributes have been attributed to the Qur'an alone. Number one is that it has remained unchanged in the original language in which it was revealed. Not even the Bible (which I would not be mean enough to compare to the Book of Mormon) has that. Even if an original manuscript was to be found (which looks less and less probable as time and scholarship proceeds) the correct pronouciation and definition of words used in the correct context of the time would not be available.

Arrogant in wanting God to be just like us. Arrogant in wanting the Creator to have human attributes.

Facts about the Qur'an - Curious Christian - 07-11-2006

Quote:Arrogant in wanting God to be just like us. Arrogant in wanting the Creator to have human attributes.

Jesus was fully man and fully God. He was a man who was tempted by Satan and suffered like man. He rose above the temptations and came away unblemished by sin.

It's arrogant to deny the need for a mediator between you and God. Islam is works based. I hope your works add up to enough to please Allah Dan. I'll put my faith in Christ.

Facts about the Qur'an - Dan - 07-11-2006

Bismillah

You did not answer.

Do you consider Jesus a "filthy sinful destitute rag" as all other humans are?

"I hope your works add up to enough to please Allah Dan. I'll put my faith in Christ. "

I put my faith in Allah's Mercy and Forgiveness for which I do not need any intermediary.

And I hope that someone else's deeds will count as your deeds.

Facts about the Qur'an - wel_mel_2 - 07-11-2006

Quote:Point number 10 brings up a good question. Why was Jesus, if only another one of God's prophets, born of a virgin? And why was this fact prophisized in scripture before it happened?

Why is it Melchizedek "if not God" is the only person in your Bible that was "without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life"

can we consider him as greater than Jesus?

Salam

Wael.