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Obsessed With The Endtimes - Ruggedtouch - 11-15-2006

From the "who's surprised at this", file:

I know everyone else will find this as shocking as I did. Plutonium found in Iran waste facility

While the world has been negotiating with the bellicose apocalypse--now mullocrats in Iran in an effort to persuade them to drop their nuclear jihad ambitions for some time now, we see how far that’s gotten us. It's finally culminated in today’s faux pas.

The shia-apocalypse nut bar “president” of Iran is that much closer to ushering in the endtimes.

Hooray for mass murder on a (much wider) global scale.

Quote:VIENNA, Austria - International Atomic Energy experts have found unexplained plutonium and highly enriched uranium traces in a nuclear waste facility in Iran and have asked Tehran for an explanation, an IAEA report said Tuesday.
The report, prepared for next week's meeting of the 35-nation IAEA, also faulted Tehran for not cooperating with the agency's attempts to investigate suspicious aspects of Iran's nuclear program that have lead to fears it might be interested in developing nuclear arms.

And it said it could not confirm Iranian claims that its nuclear activities were exclusively nonmilitary unless Tehran increased its openness.

"The agency will remain unable to make further progress in its efforts to verify the absence of undeclared nuclear material and activities in Iran," without additional cooperation by Tehran, said the report, by IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei.

Okay, shows over, move along.

Obsessed With The Endtimes - Khairan - 11-15-2006

Quote:From the "who's surprised at this", file:

I know everyone else will find this as shocking as I did. Plutonium found in Iran waste facility

While the world has been negotiating with the bellicose apocalypse--now mullocrats in Iran in an effort to persuade them to drop their nuclear jihad ambitions for some time now, we see how far that’s gotten us. It's finally culminated in today’s faux pas.

The shia-apocalypse nut bar “president” of Iran is that much closer to ushering in the endtimes.

Hooray for mass murder on a (much wider) global scale.

Okay, shows over, move along.

Blah. The U.S. has been chicken-littling Iran for more than half a century. Meanwhile, the U.S. itself has overthrown an elected Irani democracy, has fostered a nearly decade-long war against Iran, and has supplied their enemies with unconventional weapons to use against them. What has Iran actually done that is so terrible?
Legitimate grievances the U.S. has against Iran:

1. Iranis violated diplomatic immunity rules and took many of their ambassadors hostage

2. Iran supports an organization (Hezbollah) which targets U.S. interests and allies

The U.S. is not above proxy wars, so we can hardly look down our noses at Iran for doing the same. Anything else?

In the middle of the twentieth century, when we wanted control of Iran's oil, we labelled them as communists. Now, when we want to control their use of nuclear fuel, we are labelling them terrorists. Hooray!

Obsessed With The Endtimes - NaSra - 11-15-2006

Great we have another JohnDoe :rolleyes:

Obsessed With The Endtimes - wel_mel_2 - 11-15-2006

Bismillah:

Quote:Great we have another JohnDoe :rolleyes:

NO NO he is even worse. <_<

Salam

Wael.

Obsessed With The Endtimes - Dan - 11-15-2006

Bismillah

At least JD understands that many on this board are not native english speakers and does not address us with superfluous language. Totally unnecessary IMO.

Peace

Obsessed With The Endtimes - Muslimah - 11-15-2006

Bismillah

Quote:Bismillah

At least JD understands that many on this board are not native english speakers and does not address us with superfluous language. Totally unnecessary IMO.

Peace

:icon_offtopic: sorry Dan, i know could be warned for this

but being a translator, couldnt help really noticing this term.. interesting though.

mullocrats
instead of technocrats... huh.

True, new terms are being developed every day..

Obsessed With The Endtimes - Dan - 11-15-2006

Bismillah

"I don't think Israel will tolerate a nuclear armed Iran."

Even from a detacted point of view (if that's possible), this scenario will be interesting to see play out.

I don't see Isreal being too keen on Iran and nukes, either. Would the possibility of the rest of the Middle East backing Iran keep Isreal from action? Has the rest of the Middle East been cowed into submission so that even if Isreal did take action there would be no retaliation as long as each other country was left alone?

There are so many possibilities and not many seem good.

Obsessed With The Endtimes - Ruggedtouch - 11-16-2006

Well, unfortunately, I think the Iran groupies don’t understand how really dangerous Iran’s “president” really is.

I think there needs to be an acknowledgement that religious zealots whose direct beliefs embrace the “endtimes”, and whose actions may be to engage circumstances to accelerate those irrational beliefs – these are people who should have a hand on the trigger???

When one’s religious belief has squashed the fundamental survival instinct common to all living creatures, and, when that religious belief has engendered the concept that our mortal lives are of diminished value and our existence is paltry time wasted prior to the afterlife…

The above taken in context with a demonstrated propensity by the Iranian mullocracy NOT to perform like critical thinkers

So, you thought Iranian "president" Mahmoud " "Aura Surrounds Me at the UN
"" Ahmadinejad was a loony whackjob before, as he rambled on about wiping Israel off the map? Well, look out folks, because he has claimed that he's got a direct line to God
who wants the Shia umma to know that victory is as good as won.

Quote:While the West is preparing to impose sanctions on Iran, due to the country's failure to suspend its nuclear activities, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is still optimistic. "We shall win," he was quoted in the Iranian media as saying Monday, and added: "One day I will be asked whether I have been in touch with someone who told me we would win, and I will respond: 'Yes, I have been in touch with God'."
"We must not be afraid of them," he stated, hinting to the western countries. Ahmadinejad also noted that although he was at times mocked for his preoccupation with spiritual matters and his use of "divine" words," he was nevertheless certain that Iran would prevail, after having secured the support of international public opinion for its cause.

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Abbas: God's Apostle wrote a letter to Caesar saying, "If you reject Islam, you will be responsible for the sins of your people." —Sahih Bukhari 4.52.187

If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek God's help and fight them.—Sahih Muslim 19.4294

Putting nuclear weapons in the hands of religious zealots is just simply an inherently dangerous exercise. The M.E. is already a highly unstable area. The absolutely vicious Iran vs. Iraq war in the not too distant past, Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait more recently and the list goes on. Just imagine if these entities had access to nukes. The prospect is absolutely chilling. Iran and Iraq during their 10 year long slugfest managed to do substantial damage and cause phenomenal loss of life. It’s likely that only the lack of “better” technology stopped them from obliterating entire cities and populations in the course of a single afternoon. Does anyone really believe the Iran vs. Iraq war would not have rivaled the death tally of Stalin or Mao if they had the ability to slaughter on a grander scale? Remember, Holocausts and mass murder work best if you can complete them quickly.

You cannot sweep away the religious perspectives which come into play in the M.E. Those perspectives are the focus of a huge wheel of inertia. Putting nukes in the hands of those who are predisposed toward seeking a better life in the afterlife is a good idea? how? There’s little to ponder here. We are suggesting that we put nukes under the control of religious types who are bereft of a critical thinking platform which would allow them to make valid choices. These are people whose direct beliefs on their ultimate destiny is to put into effect the very elements of the end times, possibly without even realizing they are doing it (subconsciously). So they simply edge closer to a conflict, oblivious to the fact that there is no ultimate paradise to ascend to and they simply cause disastrous events to occur and then sit back and watch as nations promptly blow each other up because they believe that is the worlds ultimate destiny.

Look ? I believe it unlikely that the U.S would initiate a first strike using nukes. There’s no need to use them. I believe everyone understands the concept of self defense as it applies to a sovereign nation. One must remember though that if Iran, for example, acquires nukes, that instantly becomes a direct threat to every other M.E. nation. The race is then on to arm and to out arm the neighbor. History has shown that bigger and better weapons blended with religious fervor has been less that favorable to living a productive life.

Nuclear weapons have never been used as a means to an end to commit genocide.

Obsessed With The Endtimes - Khairan - 11-16-2006

So Iran is a country run by fanatical zealots who are dangerous and unpredictable, and THAT'S why we have to be afraid of them? That's wonderful. Unfortunately, it doesn't explain why we overthrew a democratic, secular government. It doesn't explain why WE introduced unconventional weapons to the region, and our allies have been the only ones to use them -- and against Iran, no less.

If Iran is "unstable" and "untrustworthy" because we think they MIGHT attack their neighbors and use unconventional weapons against civilian populations -- what does that make America?

Obsessed With The Endtimes - Ruggedtouch - 11-16-2006

Quote:So Iran is a country run by fanatical zealots who are dangerous and unpredictable, and THAT'S why we have to be afraid of them? That's wonderful. Unfortunately, it doesn't explain why we overthrew a democratic, secular government. It doesn't explain why WE introduced unconventional weapons to the region, and our allies have been the only ones to use them -- and against Iran, no less.

If Iran is "unstable" and "untrustworthy" because we think they MIGHT attack their neighbors and use unconventional weapons against civilian populations -- what does that make America?

Did you realize your post made no attempt to address a single point?