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Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Three Beloved Prophets of Islam - NewBeginning - 01-10-2007 Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Three Beloved Prophets of Islam By Fayzah H. Mughal Yes, Islam does accept Abraham, Moses and Jesus, giving them the Arabic names of ‘Ibrahim,’ ‘Musa,’ and ‘Isa’ respectively. They are often mentioned in the Qur’an, the Holy Book of Islam, always with great respect. The Qur’an gives them the status of Prophethood, differing from the Jewish view of Moses as an important historical figure, and Christianity’s view of Jesus as the ‘Son of God.’ Prophet Abraham/Ibrahim is considered the first ‘Muslim,’ which literally means ‘One who submits his soul to God and God alone.’ He was born into a family of polytheists who were leaders in their religion to worship various statues of gods. When he realized there was only one true God, and that what his parents worshipped were useless idols, he tried to tell his father. In the Qur’an, it is stated that he pleaded to his father: "O my father! Why do you worship what neither hears, nor sees, nor does it avail you in the least?" (19:42) After such pleading, his father rejected him angrily for defying the old beliefs. Yet Abraham still said in Chapter 19, Surah Mary/Maryam, verse 47: "Peace be upon you: I will pray to my Lord to forgive you: Surely He is ever Affectionate." The Qur’an says of Prophet Abraham: "When he had turned away from them and from those who worshipped besides God, We bestowed on him Isaac and Jacob, and each one of them We made a prophet, and We granted them of Our Mercy, and We (left behind them) a truthful mention of eminence for them." (19:49-50) Isaac was his second son and Jacob his grandson, who would carry Abraham’s traditions to become the ‘Children of Israel’ or the Israelites, forming Judaism. Abraham’s first son was Ismail. "Also mention Ismail in the Book: Surely he was truthful to (his) promise, And he was a messenger (and) a prophet. And he enjoined on his people worship and almsgiving, and was acceptable in the sight of his Lord." (19:54-55) Ultimately, the Prophets Moses, Jesus and lastly Muhammad, (peace be upon them), came from Prophet Abraham. "Also mention in the Book (The story of) Moses: For he was specially chosen, and he was an apostle (and) prophet. And We called him from the right side of Mount (Sinai), and made him draw near to Us, for Mystic (converse). And out of Mercy we gave him his brother Aaron, (also) a prophet." (19:51-53) Like in the Torah, the Qur’an includes the parting of the Red Sea (20:77, 26:63) and the forty night Moses spent on Mt. Sinai. (2:51, 7:42) Surah Maryam/Mary mentions Mary and Jesus peace be upon them. When an Angel in the form of a man come to Mary, she feared for her chastity, but those fears were put aside when he said "Nay, I am only a messenger from the Lord (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son." Then she said "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me and I am not unchaste." The Angel replied, "...Even so; Your Lord Says, "That is Easy to Me: and that way we make him a sign to men and a Mercy from Us, and it is a matter which has been decreed." (19:19-21) Underneath a palm tree, Maryam (peace be upon her) gave birth to her son Jesus, miraculously remaining chaste. God then forbade her to talk, but her babe could, and so he said from the cradle "I am indeed a servant of God, He hath given me Revelation and made me a prophet: And He has made me blessed wherever I may be, and has enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I Live. (19:30-31) In Surah 3, verses 48-49, the Qur’an says of Jesus, "And God will teach him the Book and Wisdom, The Law and the Gospel, and (appoint him an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breath into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s Leave..." Thus, Jesus is considered a prophet, and a human servant of God (Allah), that was able to make these miracles only with God’s Leave. Muslims recognize Jews and Christians, as the ‘People of the Book’ and also those that believes truly in the one God. Each of us has a Holy book, and believe in one God. Islam and its people are more open minded than many people think, promoting peace, unity and the belief in one God. These three religions have more in common than many people tend to believe. Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Three Beloved Prophets of Islam - Curious Christian - 01-11-2007 Quote:Islam and its people are more open minded than many people think, promoting peace, unity and the belief in one God. Might be due to the fact that we see large mobs of muslims chanting "death to the Jews" all the time. Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Three Beloved Prophets of Islam - Faith Hope Charity - 01-11-2007 Peace be with you, Shaunee. Thanks for posting that article. I'm incredibly impressed with the final paragraph. Mr Mughal is the first Muslim I know to acknowledge that Christians believe in One God. I thought the Quran states that we believe in 3 gods. Is there any truth to that??? Also, the Holy Bible ascribes many miracles to both Musa (PBUH) & Isa. Are those miracles recognized in Islam? Is it true that Muhammad (PBUH) didn't perform any miracles at all? I hope you're no longer upset with me. God bless. <i>Faith Hope Charity Openness Tolerance Equality</i> Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Three Beloved Prophets of Islam - wel_mel_2 - 01-24-2007 Bismillah: Quote:Mr Mughal is the first Muslim I know to acknowledge that Christians believe in One God. Almost every Muslim perfectly understand that Christians believe in one God, but as you know well, this <i>‘One God’</i> is always called <b>three</b> “Trinity” and this is where the confusion come from, because in Islam God is not divided into three persons or things. AskOxford.com (Trinity) Quote:I thought the Quran states that we believe in 3 gods. Is there any truth to that??? No, the Qur’an says: <b>And don’t say Trinity:</b> Desist: it will be better for you For Allah is One God…. Qur’an 4:171 Quote:Also, the Holy Bible ascribes many miracles to both Musa (PBUH) & Isa. Are those miracles recognized in Islam? Yes, including splitting the sea by moses pbuh, healing the deaf and the dumb and raising the dead by Jesus pbuh (with God’s permission) all these miracles and more are recognized in Islam. but please note that <b>no Prophet could perform any type of Miracle without the Permission and Will of Allah Almighty</b> Quote:Is it true that Muhammad (PBUH) didn't perform any miracles at all? You may view this thread to learn more about Muhammad’s pbuh miracles. Some of Muhammad's pbuh miracles. IslamMessage.com have a nice time Salam Wael. Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Three Beloved Prophets of Islam - Faith Hope Charity - 01-25-2007 In the Name of the Father & of the Son & of the Holy Spirit, One God, forever, Amen. Peace be with you, Wael! Quote:Almost every Muslim perfectly understand that Christians believe in one God, but as you know well, this <i>‘One God’</i> is always called <b>three</b> “Trinity” and this is where the confusion come from, because in Islam God is not divided into three persons or things. AskOxford.com (Trinity) It's difficult to discuss the mystery using human terms because the Blessed Trinity is a supernatural reality. <i>AskOxford.com = Definition 1: (the Trinity or the Holy Trinity) the three persons of the Christian Godhead; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.</i> God isn't divided up into 3 persons or things. Christians don't believe that the Father is 1/3 of God, the Son is 2/3 of God & the Holy Spirit is 3/3 of God. A distinction needs to be made between "person" & "nature". Each of the Divine Persons is one & the self-same God. Just think of water: liquid, ice & steam :) Quote:No, the Qur’an says: Yes, Christians believe that Allah is One God - you even said it yourself 5 minutes ago. We're not polytheists who believe in a trinity of 3 gods. This verse contains a paradox. Out of respect, I'll refrain from arguing with the Qur'an. Quote:healing the deaf and the dumb and raising the dead by Jesus pbuh (with God’s permission) Very funny, Wael :rolleyes: Quote:but please note that <b>no Prophet could perform any type of Miracle without the Permission and Will of Allah Almighty</b> Right on :) Quote:Some of Muhammad's pbuh miracles. IslamMessage.com A few days ago someone told me that in the Qur'an, Mohammad (PBUH) confessed to not performing any miracles. Therefore, the texts (Sahih Bukhari + Al-sira Al-Nabawiyya) are either referring to "alleged miracles" or true signs in which case Islamic tradition contradicts the Qur'an. What do you think? By the way, a prophet's duty isn't to perform miracles, so it really doesn't matter if Mohammad (PBUH) did or didn't... although, that same person also told me that Mohammad (PBUH) failed to prophesize too. Whatever! Trivial if you ask me! God bless you. Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Three Beloved Prophets of Islam - Teh_Curious - 01-25-2007 let me ask 1 simple question.... why would God send us Jesus to tell us the good news who led by example as to how all christians should live and died for our sins. then send Mohammad with completely different instructions, who if Jesus had met would have been reviled by? not a dig at muslims just an interesting thought no? Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Three Beloved Prophets of Islam - wel_mel_2 - 01-26-2007 Bismillah: Quote:Peace be with you, Wael! Peace be upon you too FHC :) Quote:It's difficult to discuss the mystery using human terms because the Blessed Trinity is a supernatural reality. You just said it, it is a mystery and no human being could really understand it, you just have to accept it as it is. (If you say I do understand it, then its fine I will believe you) Quote:God isn't divided up into 3 persons or things. Christians don't believe that the Father is 1/3 of God, the Son is 2/3 of God & the Holy Spirit is 3/3 of God. A distinction needs to be made between "person" & "nature". Each of the Divine Persons is one & the self-same God. Confusion. :conf06: Quote:Just think of water: liquid, ice & steam :) Of course am aware of this example, but you should realize that if water is present in 3 states (i.e solid, liquid, gas) as ice, water, and vapour, in all the three states, the constituents, the component of water is the same, <b>H2O</b>. That’s very important. Now let’s analyze the example you gave of ‘trinity’ - Father, son and Holy Ghost. <b>are the constituents of all these three things, father, son, and holy ghost, the same?</b> We know very well that human beings have got flesh and bones, a spirit and God Almighty have got no flesh and bones. Human beings require to eat, God Almighty does not require to eat. And the same message Jesus Christ pbuh gave <b>in the Gospel of Luke Ch. No.24, V.No.39 to 43</b>. That, ‘Behold my hands and feet - Its I myself. Handle me and see - that a spirit has got no flesh and bones as you see me have. And he gave his hands and feet - And they were overjoyed. To prove what? that he was not a spirit, that he was not God Almighty. And the verse continues ‘Do you have meat to eat’ and the next verse says that he ate broiled fish and honey comb . <b> To prove what? -</b> that he was God? <b>To prove that he was not God!</b> Jesus Christ pbuh said, ‘A spirit has no flesh and bones, as I have proving that he was not a spirit - he was not Almighty God. <b>they are not the same and so your example of water carry no weight am sorry. </b> <b>Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, never spoke about ‘trinity’- that father, son and Holy Ghost were one</b> Quote:Yes, Christians believe that Allah is One God - you even said it yourself 5 minutes ago. We're not polytheists who believe in a trinity of 3 gods. This verse contains a paradox. You misunderstood the verse as usual; the Qur’an is asking you to believe in God as ONE and to stop from referring to Him as Trinity. You rejected this message, its fine, but it is very clear and there is no paradox here. Quote:Very funny, Wael :rolleyes: my wife always say that :D but in case you did not understand what I said, I would like to repeat... Jesus Christ pbuh was given the ability to heal the deaf and dumb and to raise the dead by God’s leave, <b>not on his own</b>, and he said it many times in your Bible that I CAN OF MY OWN SELF DO NOTHING. <b>What is funny about that by the way ?</b> Quote:A few days ago someone told me that in the Qur'an, Mohammad (PBUH) confessed to not performing any miracles. Any reference from the Qur’an? Quote:Therefore, the texts (Sahih Bukhari + Al-sira Al-Nabawiyya) are either referring to "alleged miracles" or true signs in which case Islamic tradition contradicts the Qur'an. What do you think? There are no contradictions between the Hadiths and the Qur’an, unless you provide the verse that you are talking about, I cannot give you any answer. Prophet Muhammad pbuh performed many miracles but we do not normally speak about them unless somebody asks (like CC), the ultimate miracle of Prophet Muhammad pbuh that we always mention and advise people to ponder over its message is the Holy Qur’an. Quote:By the way, a prophet's duty isn't to perform miracles, so it really doesn't matter if Mohammad (PBUH) did or didn't... Correct, so you should not go around and talk about Jesus’ miracles as well and make a silly comparison between him and other Prophets (am referring to whoever trying to do this). All of these miracles were the work of God to support His Prophets while conveying His message to their people. Quote:although, that same person also told me that Mohammad (PBUH) failed to prophesize too. Whatever! Trivial if you ask me! Is this person a Christian? :) Salam Wael Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Three Beloved Prophets of Islam - Teh_Curious - 01-26-2007 to a degree you are correct, however having said that we believe that GOD the one and the only as im sure you will agree there is no other than GOD almighty EXISTED as 3 different entities, we are not saying that 3 people are god we are saying that god has come to us in 3 differnt ways. Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Three Beloved Prophets of Islam - wel_mel_2 - 01-26-2007 Bismillah: Quote:let me ask 1 simple question.... Because the message of Jesus pbuh was interpolated and fabricated by the hands of many men, these are not my words by the way, almost every honest Christian scholar would say that the Bible is the production of men, and that’s why Muhammad pbuh was sent to guide us to the right path. Salam Wael Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Three Beloved Prophets of Islam - wel_mel_2 - 01-26-2007 Bismillah: Quote:to a degree you are correct, however having said that we believe that GOD the one and the only as im sure you will agree there is no other than GOD almighty EXISTED as 3 different entities, First of all I can only agree that God Almighty is <b>One and Only who existed in no more than ONE FORM </b> (and this form is totally unknown to us) the Qur’an says: there is nothing comparable to Him . Quote: we are not saying that 3 people are god we are saying that god has come to us in 3 differnt ways. Did Jesus himself pbuh say that? <i>"that god has come to us in 3 differnt ways"</i> Salam Wael. |