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Oz Sheik: Australia Belongs to Us - Ruggedtouch - 01-11-2007
Hey Aussies, how do you like the multicultural tolerance of your guests, now? Take a look at what passes for gratitude from the very people you have opened your homes to. The leader of the Australian Muslim community (and remember we’ve heard from this character before), expresses some not so conciliatory terms of endearment towards members of the very nation he darkens with his vile message of hate
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Quote:Hilali emerges to deride 'nation of convicts'
By Richard Kerbaj
January 12, 2007 01:00am
SHEIK Taj al-Din al-Hilali has ridiculed his adopted country on Egyptian television, dismissing the furore over his insults to women and defence of gang rapists while claiming Muslims had more right to live in Australia than the descendants of convicts.
"The Western people are the biggest liars and oppressors and especially the English race," the Mufti of Australia said in Arabic during the extensive interview in Eqypt, his birthplace. "The Anglo-Saxons who arrived in Australia arrived in shackles. We paid for passports from our own pockets. We have a right in Australia more than they have."
Having last year suggested victims should share the blame for being sexually assaulted, Sheik Hilaly used the interview to blame the September 11 attacks on the US for influencing lengthy sentences given to Sydney's notorious Lebanese Muslim gang rapists.
"Up until then the worst crime in Australia had received seven years' jail," he said.
He told the two interviewers during the wide-ranging discussion that his time in Australia since the early 1980s had given him a great insight into the Australian way of life and the Western mentality, which he labelled "oppressive".
But then, referring to gay unions, Sheik Hilaly said: "I understand the mentality of the West and especially the Australian mentality and I understand that the Australian law guarantees freedoms to the point of insanity."
Perhaps the only real insanity is that we allow these seditious snakes the freedom to plot our demise from within the borders that provide our open and tolerant cultures.
Continuing:
Quote:"Their values [Australia's] are upside down. They have no democracy, no freedom. They are the worst liars and unjust people," the sheik said in the Arabic-language interview.
Alhilali also defended the Muslim men convicted of Sydney's gang rapes, a position that has caused controversy in the past.
"They arranged to meet in a public park at 2 or 3 am in the morning, and it (the sex) was agreed on," he said.
Alhilali also poured scorn on Australia's convict history and seemed to suggest Muslims were in Australia long before the British settled here in 1788.
"Australia is no longer Anglo-Saxon. We've been in Australia longer than them. Islam is deep rooted in the Australian soil. Islam was here before the English fleet."
OK Australians. I think you owe the good Sheik al-Hilali an apology. You should apologize for the mere fact of your continued existence.
Oz Sheik: Australia Belongs to Us - Teh_Curious - 01-13-2007
i find it more amusing at whats NOT being said by the Muslim community .....
this guy is halarious and suffers from chronic foot in mouth disease, kayser trad is another funny one he sticks up for this Hilali charecter time and time again, and every time Hilali drops another dogs dinner into his lap.
this guy does more damage to islam than 100 john howards put together
if these people hate us so much why are they here?
but then im just the Evhul spawn of a chained convict :P
Oz Sheik: Australia Belongs to Us - Teh_Curious - 01-13-2007
if i remember my history, the first Muslims in Australia were from Afganistan, they opened up central Australia by finding routed north and south and east and west.
>THE RICH HISTORY OF MUSLIMS IN CENTRAL AUSTRALIA
>Part One of a report by GRETTA SCADDING
>
>Muslims are today a barely noticed minority in Alice Springs, the town
>they helped to build. Before wheeled transport arrived in 1929,
>countless Afghans sweated and toiled to carry supplies by camel across
>the desert. Their descendants today have a deep respect for their
>ancestors. They are proud of their culture and some still practise
>their religion of Islam. Much, however, has changed over the years.
>There were originally about 50 Afghan families living in Alice Springs,
>but many left to go to Marree, Broken Hill and Port Augusta. There are
>now 35 Afghan families remaining, though the Islam community as a whole
>numbers about 65 families, including those from India, Pakistan,
>Bangladesh, and the Middle East. All members of the community are
>still "given Azan" - the equivalent to the Christian baptism. But many
>do not strictly adhere to all the five pillars of Islam: prayer,
>fasting, charity, haj (the journey to Mecca, at least once), and to
>believe in Allah - God. Praying five times a day has become a trial
>for many, and there are rarely more than 10 to 15 people at the mosque
>for Friday prayer. Others indulge in the infidels' habits of drinking
>alcohol, smoking and gambling. There are now rarely arranged marriages
>to fellow Muslims. Meride Satour, an Afghan descendant says: "Our
>grandparents' marriages were arranged, but my husband is a Catholic
>European: "I drink alcohol, just like my father did. He told Abdul
>Khan [a respected leader at the local mosque] never to disturb him on a
>Saturday. "This was his betting day. We have a tradition of
>respecting your elders so Mr Khan couldn't really say anything!"
>
>Rachel Warner, whose grandfather was an Afghan camel driver, says:
>"The Imam, [teacher] from Adelaide, told us What you do in moderation
>is your business'." For the Muslims here, the mosque, in the new
>Larapinta area, is supposed to be the hub of community activity, but
>not for Rachel. "I have never been to the mosque because I believe,
>like any religion, if you do the right thing, why do you have to go to
>church? "I believe in God and that is enough." Getting to Mecca on
>the haj doesn't draw many people either.
Oz Sheik: Australia Belongs to Us - Teh_Curious - 01-13-2007
But long-term friend and president of Islamic Friendship Association president Keysar Trad defended him, saying the comments appeared to be a “slip of the tongue”.
“I don’t believe that he intended to take a swipe at Australian society, I got the impression that he was trying to justify living here to a person that was probing him,” he said.
both eyes shut, fingers in ears "i hear nothing" "i hear nothing"
Oz Sheik: Australia Belongs to Us - Faith Hope Charity - 01-13-2007
May the peace of Christ be with you all.
I can't help but have a soft spot for Mr al-Hilali. It may have something to do with the humility & grace always shown by his beautiful wife & daughters.
I don't think he's controversial. If it were up to me I'd sign him up to star in his very own TV show (comedy program of course).
Unlike America, Australia has no culture. If you walk up to an Australian-born Arab, Asian, European or African & ask them where they're from, they'll give you the name of their parents homeland. Most ethnic-Australians tend to have an identity crisis. I'll never forget one of the gang-rapists who stood up in court & said he believes he's innocent because in his culture rape isn't considered a crime. This coming from a guy who was born & raised in Australia.
Quote:Alhilali also defended the Muslim men convicted of Sydney's gang rapes, a position that has caused controversy in the past.
"They arranged to meet in a public park at 2 or 3 am in the morning, and it (the sex) was agreed on," he said.
Dear oh dear! Is the grand mufti of Australia condoning fornication?
Oz Sheik: Australia Belongs to Us - Teh_Curious - 01-13-2007
admittedly, kayser trads explination does hold water to a certain degree, it appears the sheik of speak has bowled too many media spinners. admittedly i dun mind him he provides me with hours of humour