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The Muslim Dilemma (part II) - Teh_Curious - 04-08-2007 <b> The Christian Bible Says Jesus is God, and one with the Father</b> Muslims have no choice but to believe in the Christian Bible and the Apostles who wrote it. The Qur'an forbids anyone, on pain of shameful punishment, from making distinctions between the authority of the apostles and prophets of God, or from choosing between God's words. No one is permitted to believe in part and reject a part. Those who presume to do so, it says, are infidels in reality (Suras 4:150-152; 2:89; 42:13-15; 29:46-47). Who is he talking about? This Sura below shows how Muhammad had a complete misunderstanding of the Christian Gospel, and what the Trinity is. Apparently, Muhammad is referring to Christians. But his error here is that both Christians and Jews believe there is only One God. Muhammad also mistakenly thought the Trinity was the Father, Son and Mother (Mary). - Sura 5:73-75, "They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three..." Again, below Muhammad attests to the Torah's (Taurat) authority. So, for Muslims to claim the Bible was corrupted is an argument already lost.... - In Sura 5:48 we are told that Muhammad is given the Qur'an as a confirmation of the bible; that is - it is meant to prove the bible's authenticity.... "And We have revealed to you the Book with the truth, verifying what is before it of the Book and a guardian over it," - In Sura 46:12 we are told.... "Yet before it there was the Book of Moses (Torah/Old Testement) which was an authority, and a mercy. This (the Qur'an) is the Book confirming it in the Arabic tongue....." <b> Muhammad deferred to the Torah for Guidance Himself</b> Asked to produce the Torah and read from it, Âl 'Imran 3:93. A group of Jews went to Muhammad and ask him to pronounce judgment on an adulterous couple. Muhammad asked for the Torah to be brought before him, and the couple was subsequently stoned, in accordance with the penalty laid down in the Torah. (see Sahih Bukhari Book 38, no. 4434) This incident indicates that Muhammad deferred to the Torah for judgment. In the whole incident, there is no indication whatsoever that the Torah is not trustworthy, Also see: fate of those who do not live by Torah, al-Jum`ah 62:5 ; referred to settle dispute on food, Âl 'Imran 3:93-94 ; retribution in, al-Ma'idah 5:45 Torah/Taurat: This word occurs 18 times in the Qur'an. It refers to the 39 books that make up the Jewish & Christian Old Testament. Jesus Himself said "every iota" (or every bit) of this Torah/Taurat is true. <b></b> ISLAM, LIKE SATAN - WANTS ONLY SLAVES.... Most Muslims do not realize that Islam allows no freedom. This alone should make them realize that it is Satan behind Islam, and not an eternal God. Satan wishes only to enslave Muslims to help him enslave the entire world. He does this by turning them away from the truth -- that salvation is yours already, if you only have faith in God's Son, Jesus. Islam is a religion based on intimidation and fear. The word "Islam" does not mean "peace." It means "submission." A Muslim is not allowed to leave Islam or else risk his or her life. At birth, a person is branded either Muslim or non-Muslim depending on one's descent. Among other things, the religion of Islam is a brain-washing religion, and that is why so many Muslims turn into crazy mindless zombies. The Muslims are required to pray 5 times a day in Arabic to a God who is not there, from the moment they embrace Islam; and when they do so they touch their head to the floor. That is one reason they get so brain-washed, this repetitive prayer. You can often spot fanatical Muslims by the marks on their foreheads resulting from this repetitive touching their head to the floor, where they may whack their head if they really get into it. If you are a Muslim, and not praying the mandatory 5 times a day (in Arabic), which must be preceded by the ritual washing/ablution (Wudu) , according to Muhammad you are in great danger of going to hell. Muslims may be excused from observing the other pillars of Islam like fasting, almsgiving, pilgrimage to Mecca. But, no Muslim is ever excused from mandatory 5 times a day prayer. In Christianity there is no compulsion or mandatory prayer. The Lord God has given Christians free will. Christians know they are to honor God every day, and not just on a Sunday. Muslims should count their "blessings". During Muhammad's fanciful mystical Night Journey to Heaven, Muhammad said that he was originally told by Allah to command his followers to pray fifty times daily, but later Allah revealed this to be too much of a burden. What Muhammad probably meant was he soon found out that even he couldn't keep up with fifty mandatory prayer sessions a day. So like many Sura's you'll see below, miraculously a Sura appeared to help Muhammad out in his personal life. In Christianity, there is no such compulsion. Yahweh wants heartfelt prayers. Not scripted prayers. Christians know enough to speak with God as their "Abba" (literally - daddy in Aramaic). Muslims typically never even think of one-on-one, two-way prayers to God. Muslim prayers resemble a "broadcast"; and no reply from their Allah is usually ever expected. <b>Jesus told us: "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen (pagans) do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him." Matthew 6:7 - 8 </b> Satan, Muhammad and al-Zawahiri all "rail" against the cross! CAIRO, Egypt, Dec. 11, 2005 In a taped message Ayman al-Zawahiri, urged all Muslims to take up arms and said their refusal to join the fight against "the Cross and Zionism" was a "malignant illness" that would only lead to the defeat of militant Islam. Another example of this mindless zombie behavior you see in Muslims is the Shiite Muslim "holiday" of Ashoura, commemorating the death of Muhammad's grandson Husayn. Some Shiite Muslims stab themselves in the head on this "holiday", making a cut on their heads and beating the wound so it keeps bleeding. And the "bleeders" then walk around in groups yelling. And the cruelest and worst practice of Muslims is their practice of genital cutting (aka: FGC, Female Genital Cutting), genital mutilation, of young girls in Muslim countries. It has been estimated that approximately 2 million infants, young girls, and women are subjected to this painful and needless practice each year worldwide. FGC is typically done without anesthesia or antibiotics. A symptom of enslavement: Islamic law encourages Muslims to proselytize (convert others). Islam, however, clearly forbids others to proselytize to Muslims. This is because hearing the truth as revealed in the Christian Bible would weaken this false path to God (Islam). The Muslim Dilemma (part II) - Al-fateh - 04-08-2007 what a waste :) i feel sorry for who will sit down and read all this and try to reply to it haha!! oh, i thank you for pointing out what is wrong about that shia practice