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The Instruction - Dan - 09-30-2006
Bismillah
My replies seem angry? Sorry but...
Sahih Muslim
Book 004, Number 1885:
Jabir b. Abdullah said: When Allah's Messenger (may peace he upon him) delivered the sermon, his eyes became red, his voice rose. and his anger increased so that he was like one giving a warning against the enemy and saying:" The enemy has made a morning attack on you and in the evening too." He would also say:" The last Hour and I have been sent like these two." and he would join his forefinger and middle finger; and would further say:" The best of the speech is embodied in the Book of Allah, and the beet of the guidance is the guidance given by Muhammad. And the most evil affairs are their innovations; and every innovation is error." He would further say:, I am more dear to a Muslim even than his self; and he who left behind property that is for his family. and he who dies under debt or leaves children (in helplessness). the responsibility (of paying his debt and bringing up his children) lies on me."
Sunan Abu Dawud
Book 39, Number 4515:
Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:
Qays ibn Abbad and Ashtar went to Ali and said to him: Did the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) give you any instruction about anything for which he did not give any instruction to the people in general?
He said: No, except what is contained in this document of mine. Musaddad said: He then took out a document. Ahmad said: A document from the sheath of his sword.
It contained: The lives of all Muslims are equal; they are one hand against others; the lowliest of them can guarantee their protection. Beware, a Muslim must not be killed for an infidel, nor must one who has been given a covenant be killed while his covenant holds. If anyone introduces an innovation, he will be responsible for it. If anyone introduces an innovation or gives shelter to a man who introduces an innovation (in religion), he is cursed by Allah, by His angels, and by all the people.
Now what...?
Are you going to lie and say that you are not innovating when you are clearly changing things, like the prayer?
The Instruction - WITNESS THE REAL - 10-01-2006
Quote:Bismillah
My replies seem angry? Sorry but...
Sahih Muslim
Book 004, Number 1885:
Jabir b. Abdullah said: When Allah's Messenger (may peace he upon him) delivered the sermon, his eyes became red, his voice rose. and his anger increased so that he was like one giving a warning against the enemy and saying:" The enemy has made a morning attack on you and in the evening too." He would also say:" The last Hour and I have been sent like these two." and he would join his forefinger and middle finger; and would further say:" The best of the speech is embodied in the Book of Allah, and the beet of the guidance is the guidance given by Muhammad. And the most evil affairs are their innovations; and every innovation is error." He would further say:, I am more dear to a Muslim even than his self; and he who left behind property that is for his family. and he who dies under debt or leaves children (in helplessness). the responsibility (of paying his debt and bringing up his children) lies on me."
Sunan Abu Dawud
Book 39, Number 4515:
Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:
Qays ibn Abbad and Ashtar went to Ali and said to him: Did the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) give you any instruction about anything for which he did not give any instruction to the people in general?
He said: No, except what is contained in this document of mine. Musaddad said: He then took out a document. Ahmad said: A document from the sheath of his sword.
It contained: The lives of all Muslims are equal; they are one hand against others; the lowliest of them can guarantee their protection. Beware, a Muslim must not be killed for an infidel, nor must one who has been given a covenant be killed while his covenant holds. If anyone introduces an innovation, he will be responsible for it. If anyone introduces an innovation or gives shelter to a man who introduces an innovation (in religion), he is cursed by Allah, by His angels, and by all the people.
Now what...?
Are you going to lie and say that you are not innovating when you are clearly changing things, like the prayer?
Volume 3, Book 32, Number 227:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever prayed at night the whole month of Ramadan out of sincere Faith and hoping for a reward from Allah, then all his previous sins will be forgiven." Ibn Shihab (a sub-narrator) said, "Allah's Apostle died and the people continued observing that (i.e. Nawafil offered individually, not in congregation), and it remained as it was during the Caliphate of Abu Bakr and in the early days of 'Umar's Caliphate." 'Abdur Rahman bin 'Abdul Qari said, "I went out in the company of 'Umar bin Al-Khattab one night in Ramadan to the mosque and found the people praying in different groups. A man praying alone or a man praying with a little group behind him. So, 'Umar said, 'In my opinion I would better collect these (people) under the leadership of one Qari (Reciter) (i.e. let them pray in congregation!)'. So, he made up his mind to congregate them behind Ubai bin Ka'b. Then on another night I went again in his company and the people were praying behind their reciter. On that, 'Umar remarked, 'What an excellent Bid'a (i.e. innovation in religion) this is; but the prayer which they do not perform, but sleep at its time is better than the one they are offering.' He meant the prayer in the last part of the night. (In those days) people used to pray in the early part of the night."
Dan, This one is like the prayer. You see how Allah guides my every move? Keep attempting to prove me false because it is proving me true(All praises due to Allah)
The Instruction - Muslimah - 10-01-2006
Bismillah
Witness, where Dan did speak Arabic? he adviced you to recite Ayatul korsi of which i posted a transiletration and number of verse: 2:255.
And Alhamdulelah, that u keep proving your faulshood, not only faulsehood, but also total lack of knowledge, taking texts out of context. If you should be worried about anyone, you should be seriously worried about yourself, remember what you type shall remain recorded in lauh mahfouz. i used this Arabic term before and u never commented.
You posted a hadeeth encounrating prayer at night, while Dan was refering to you making innovation regarding the obligatory prayer being 7 and not 5. Did he add on the obligatory??
U can actually pray all night long. But u cant add or subtract to even the number of Raka per each prayer. Except during travelling of course.
And if u r using this:
'What an excellent Bid'a (i.e. innovation in religion)
Try to learn more really I m serious, before teaching others and harming both u and them.
Try to sustain consistency.
The Instruction - WITNESS THE REAL - 10-01-2006
Quote:Bismillah
Witness, where Dan did speak Arabic? he adviced you to recite Ayatul korsi of which i posted a transiletration and number of verse: 2:255.
And Alhamdulelah, that u keep proving your faulshood, not only faulsehood, but also total lack of knowledge, taking texts out of context. If you should be worried about anyone, you should be seriously worried about yourself, remember what you type shall remain recorded in lauh mahfouz. i used this Arabic term before and u never commented.
You posted a hadeeth encounrating prayer at night, while Dan was refering to you making innovation regarding the obligatory prayer being 7 and not 5. Did he add on the obligatory??
U can actually pray all night long. But u cant add or subtract to even the number of Raka per each prayer. Except during travelling of course.
And if u r using this:
'What an excellent Bid'a (i.e. innovation in religion)
Try to learn more really I m serious, before teaching others and harming both u and them.
Try to sustain consistency.
He said that there can be "no innovation".
Excerpt from The Instrution:
<i>Pray 7 times a day facing God in any direction, and again every direction is facing God. Pray 7 times a day in spirit and truth in any direction. You may pray a little more or a little less, but if you do not pray you will not be purified.</i>
These 7 prayers are not obligatory so that is not even an innovation, for as you said, "U can actually pray all night long."
and we should at least pray 5 times a day.
Everything we say and write is being recorded that is for sure. So, I am being very mindful to do these things thoughtfully.
Can I be harming someone encouraging them to pray to our one and only God?
BTW, When I told "Christians" about Asanas and said pray 7 times they got upset and said "that's a Muslim thing to do" and "I am not Muslim" I said, " What! Muslims are praying too much for you, well actually Muslims pray 5 times a day so don't worry I am saying 7 a little more or a little less"
Jews have 3 obligatory prayers. Islam has 5 obligatory prayers. God is Mighty, Wise.
The Instruction - Muslimah - 10-01-2006
Bismillah
Sobhan Allah, u keep changing your words, position, call.
BTW, you will not find receipients for your commodity here INsh aAllah.
But you know why i keep replying to you? because out there, there are many who are like you. And a new Muslim or a non Muslim might come to this site and read, Insh aAllah will be able to realize the truth.
Witness, as long as the term Asanas was not included in Quran, thus, this makes it a pure innovation with all what it carries with it. Allah identified Muslims with different terms according to their position and desire to improve and icrease.
Such as Muslim, Mu`men, Mukhbet, Awab, A`bd, A`bd Mukhlis.
I know u dont know Arabic. Insh a Allah I will take the time to dedicate a thread for those terms.
Moreover, if u check the Quran, Islam was, has been, will remain the only religion since Adam till Mohamed salla Allah a`lyhee wa sallam.
Alhamdulelah, I m doing this, and Insh aAllah I m sure Dan has the same objective, for those members who might come here and read to realize the truth.
The Instruction - WITNESS THE REAL - 10-01-2006
Quote:Bismillah
Sobhan Allah, u keep changing your words, position, call.
BTW, you will not find receipients for your commodity here INsh aAllah.
But you know why i keep replying to you? because out there, there are many who are like you. And a new Muslim or a non Muslim might come to this site and read, Insh aAllah will be able to realize the truth.
Witness, as long as the term Asanas was not included in Quran, thus, this makes it a pure innovation with all what it carries with it. Allah identified Muslims with different terms according to their position and desire to improve and icrease.
Such as Muslim, Mu`men, Mukhbet, Awab, A`bd, A`bd Mukhlis.
I know u dont know Arabic. Insh a Allah I will take the time to dedicate a thread for those terms.
Moreover, if u check the Quran, Islam was, has been, will remain the only religion since Adam till Mohamed salla Allah a`lyhee wa sallam.
Alhamdulelah, I m doing this, and Insh aAllah I m sure Dan has the same objective, for those members who might come here and read to realize the truth.
Peace be upon you,
As you say Islam was, has been and will remain the only religion since Adam till Mohammad and yet it has been called Judaism as well as Christianity and nonetheless all who have submitted to Allah are by definition Muslims in Islam so the only Religion is the only Religion even after Mohammad. The term Muslim is not in the Bible and yet it is by definition in the Bible.
Quote:Witness, as long as the term Asanas was not included in Quran, thus, this makes it a pure innovation with all what it carries with it.
084.024-025
So announce to them a Penalty Grievous,
<b>Except to those who believe and work righteous deeds</b>: For them is a Reward that will never fail.
I have only confirmed what is pure in Islam and God willing, yes people will know truth from falsehood but surely God guides whom he pleases and they are of those that are pleasing to Him, for God does not like the wrongdoers.
God is beyond Arabia and you must understand God must be known to all people in all tongues. He has revealed Himself In Holy books with other Mother tongues than arabic but until now that has not happened in America. We are translating everything in America but now there will be no excuse as Allah has sent to His witness a Reminder in plain American English and it is Quite an achievement, whoever reads it confirm its truth therein.
Even Dan when trying to insult it says it sounds as if I practically quote the Bible and the Quaran and some have said it reminds them of the Quaran in its flow and there is no better compliment than for these things to be said. I notice you removed the attachment God willing you will allow me to place it here again. No one can write a book like this book not even the greatest writers anywhere in the world that is because it is the truth from our Rabb. 77 pages in a single day this is a clear sign for those who have understanding. If God has chose He could have sent it in stages but God is AL-MIGHTY, AL-WISE infact He is AL-ONE . there is a sign in this for those who are prudent.
The Instruction - Muslimah - 10-02-2006
Bismillah
No u will not be able to re attach.
The Instruction - Dan - 10-02-2006
Bismillah
Muslimah- Yes. I only post to further allow him to contradict himself
"God is beyond Arabia and you must understand God must be known to all people in all tongues. He has revealed Himself In Holy books with other Mother tongues than arabic but until now that has not happened in America. We are translating everything in America but now there will be no excuse as Allah has sent to His witness a Reminder in plain American English and it is Quite an achievement, whoever reads it confirm its truth therein."
Heard of Joseph Smith... Mormons..? He made the same claim. He had "divine" revelation come to him. He produced a book greater than 77 pages with many, many more followers. It was revealed for those in America. He's wrong, you're right? Where's your proof? The "voice" told you so? That voice makes you tingle and feel love and compassion? Feels good? Many, many Christians feel the same way... many, many Christians have "God" talking to them. Many have books inspired to them for purposes of guidance and healing. There are wrong? You are right?
Just because something makes you feel good and soaring does not mean that it is correct. Drugs can produce the same effects but would many argue that they are good? Wealth and sex can produce wonderful feelings as well. Buddhists and Hindus can feel transcedence in their meditations, feelings of great love, compassion, and insight. Are they correct?
It all comes crashing down eventually. The falsehood becomes apparent. Unfortunately for you, it seems like you will only receive admonition when you have died. Then you are in trouble. No going back. So you better make sure that you are 100% right. For me, Islam is not taken for granted. It is analysed and learned (something that you have completely failed to do.) It seems you only "learn" about Islam through this voice telling you where to look and read. Try reading on your own with the purpose of actually learning about the deen.
You know how many false prophets have been before you that have taken ayats and misquoted them and claimed their significance? Do a search you might have some insight on your situation. Did you know that when the Prophet Sulayman lost his throne due to Allah's Will that shayateen wrote blasphemy on tablets and hid it under his throne? When Sulayman died, these shayateen unearthed the tablets and claimed them as scripture that Sulayman followed. People then believed in these writings. Do you think the writings were eloquent and moved people. Would they not have to be in order to get people to follow them? You see? Shaytan has been trying to taint the message of Islam since the beginning. Still is. Still will in the future. We know this because our Prophet saws warned us, warned us of people just like you.
I am telling you as billions of muslims past and present will or would, Islam is complete and final. There is nothing else after it. Nothing you say, no words written, nothing will change that. The companions of the Prophet woud never accept what you are saying and they are the best of generations.
You still have yet to answer about ayat al-Kursi and surat al-Baqarah. This has been mentioned a few times and you are not responding. Have you recited them or played them in your house?
The Instruction - WITNESS THE REAL - 10-02-2006
Quote:Bismillah
Muslimah- Yes. I only post to further allow him to contradict himself
you will find no contradiction.
Quote:Heard of Joseph Smith... Mormons..? He made the same claim. He had "divine" revelation come to him. He produced a book greater than 77 pages with many, many more followers. It was revealed for those in America. He's wrong, you're right? Where's your proof? The "voice" told you so? That voice makes you tingle and feel love and compassion? Feels good? Many, many Christians feel the same way... many, many Christians have "God" talking to them. Many have books inspired to them for purposes of guidance and healing. There are wrong? You are right?
I am glad you brought Joseph Smith up because he is a false prophet. Why? because his religion came after Mohammad(PBUH) and yet he did not acknowledge Mohammad(PBUH) Any one who comes after Mohammed and does not recognize Mohammad does not have the seal. Progressive revelation has to confirm what came before it, if it does not then it is false. Jesus said I am the way I am the truth and I am the life. No one comes to the Father except through me and he was right. Then when Mohammad comes he is also right. You have to confirm what has come before that is your obligation to acknowledge your roots.
Quote:Just because something makes you feel good and soaring does not mean that it is correct. Drugs can produce the same effects but would many argue that they are good? Wealth and sex can produce wonderful feelings as well. Buddhists and Hindus can feel transcedence in their meditations, feelings of great love, compassion, and insight. Are they correct?
Have you know understanding that there has only been one religion in successive stages. Do you really think that Hindus are speaking of a different God? Read the Quaran: 022.017
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians, Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- Allah will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for Allah is witness of all things.
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
Can you not see there is only THE GOD there is no other.
Quote:It all comes crashing down eventually. The falsehood becomes apparent. Unfortunately for you, it seems like you will only receive admonition when you have died. Then you are in trouble. No going back. So you better make sure that you are 100% right.
You are right.
Quote: For me, Islam is not taken for granted. It is analysed and learned (something that you have completely failed to do.) It seems you only "learn" about Islam through this voice telling you where to look and read. Try reading on your own with the purpose of actually learning about the deen.
The deen is submission to "The" God.
Quote:You know how many false prophets have been before you that have taken ayats and misquoted them and claimed their significance?
Do you know how many people call Mohammad (PBUH) a false prophet?
Quote: Do a search you might have some insight on your situation. Did you know that when the Prophet Sulayman lost his throne due to Allah's Will that shayateen wrote blasphemy on tablets and hid it under his throne? When Sulayman died, these shayateen unearthed the tablets and claimed them as scripture that Sulayman followed. People then believed in these writings. Do you think the writings were eloquent and moved people. Would they not have to be in order to get people to follow them? You see? Shaytan has been trying to taint the message of Islam since the beginning. Still is. Still will in the future. We know this because our Prophet saws warned us, warned us of people just like you.
This is the same argument that the christians use against Islm. They say Jesus warned them about people like Mohammad in-fact there was a Pope who's name was Pope innocence that declared Mohammad the Anti-Christ. Well since we know that's not true it then proves nothing as the Jews also called Jesus a false Messiah.
Quote:I am telling you as billions of muslims past and present will or would, Islam is complete and final. There is nothing else after it. Nothing you say, no words written, nothing will change that. The companions of the Prophet woud never accept what you are saying and they are the best of generations.
Then why do you accept the Hadith or the sunnah as they are not mentioned in the Quaran. The Quran did not lack anything that required an addition did it? Of course not! Yet you recite to me a story other than the story in the Quaran(Recital) So if this story is true about Solomon then it is an innovation outside of what the CLEAR BOOK teaches.
Quote:You still have yet to answer about ayat al-Kursi and surat al-Baqarah. This has been mentioned a few times and you are not responding. Have you recited them or played them in your house?
What is al-Kursi and surat al-Baqarah? It is the 255th verse of the 2nd Surah and it is a Most Wonderful verse but in-fact each verse in the Quaran is Perfect in itself.
Here is one of my favorites:
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Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The Parable of His Light is as if there were a Niche and within it a Lamp: the Lamp enclosed in Glass: the glass as it were a brilliant star: Lit from a blessed Tree, an Olive, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil is well-nigh luminous, though fire scarce touched it: Light upon Light! Allah doth guide whom He will to His Light: Allah doth set forth Parables for men: and Allah doth know all things.
The Instruction - Dan - 10-03-2006
Bismillah
"What is al-Kursi and surat al-Baqarah? It is the 255th verse of the 2nd Surah and it is a Most Wonderful verse but in-fact each verse in the Quaran is Perfect in itself."
Wow... this is really stumping you.
HAVE YOU PLAYED THE ARABIC QUR'AN IN YOUR HOUSE, ESPECIALLY SURAT AL-BAQARAH?
Just do it if you have not.